Steel frame? If so you'll be just fine, I rode mine around for years (with what appears to be the same exact dent at the same exact place!) before I traded it and the person that has it rides it often with no propblems :thumb: you can have a frame builder fix it without replaceing the tube too. :)

Suck on a penis immediately.

haha i tried to be nice but thats what i was reffering to.

ilikeikes: yea i think its going ot be fine, i might get a tt cover as well

That would do it. :thumb:

The dent on the red bike is not a "small dent". Thats a significant dent! Steel isn't as failure prone as Ti, Crabon or AL, but that doesn't mean it wont break. Seeing that I treat patients with sports related trauma all the time at work, and know how expensive medical bills are, I would throw that frame in the trash and buy a new one.

I'm not a real Doctor, but I play one on BF...

Ha. No, I'm not a doctor, I'm just a lowly ski patroller.

based on what you are saying about me throwing my bike in the garbage. is it just your assumption or you have experiences with similar frame damages? you know enough about the trame/tubing geometry?

may be first pictures made it look a bit more dramatic

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...2/DSC_8567.jpg

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...2/DSC_8565.jpg

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...2/DSC_8561.jpg

Frame is garbage. It's carbon right? Throw it out and buy another one for 50-300 dollars.

Oh, thats not nearly as bad as the picture made it. The other one made it look way worse.

What are you, some 13 year old?
STEAL IZ REALZ LOLZZ!!!!1111!!!

Do girls always have fat feet? I hadn't noticed. :)

Perhaps the straps were simply loosened so the owner could dismount from the bike?

This shouldn't be a serious problem on a steel frame. If it bothers you, find a shop with a set of these and have them roll the dent out.

so, are you gonna buy us people with dented steel frames new bikes, or stfu, or gtfo? the choice is yours

Tap the dent part with your finger, if it sounds hollow (crisp sound) then it will affect the bike frame, if it is like a dull sound then dent is fine.

But generally the top tube is stronger than the bottom tude, becasue when you ride, your hands on handle bars are pushing the frame down supported by fork,wheel, hub, spokes, tires, And beginning of top tube.

it's probably safe to ride, but you do realize that the kilo is a db chromo frame, which means the tube wall thickness is probably just a few mm thick. that dent is at least 2-3mm which is quite substantial compared to the tube wall thickness.

use context, columbo.

the sound doesnt change through out the tube

yes thats quite obvious, i dont understand what are you getting at tho?

Sure it does, if you have double butted tubes the sound will get deeper as you reach the area where the tubes meet (where they're butted) :thumb:

yea, sorry i meant to say that the sound was pretty consistent within the dent and around it.

just sayin'. i'm in sort of the same boat but my dent is smaller. i feel like it's something i can slap a sticker over and not worry about it but then i think, the tubing is only 2-4mm thick max and the dent is a large proportion of that, so maybe it is something i should worry about.

i think it would be more 1.5-2 mm 4 is really heavy dudty. I was raised in cm country

...and destroy the paint job while only providing a partial dent-removing job.

if I had a dent larger than a ding, I'd ride over to the friendly local bike shop and ask the mechanic what he or she thinks. chances are these frames in the posted pictures will be fine in my opinion, but keep an eye on it and perhaps seek out a trusted opinion like the mechanic for peace of mind or the unwanted truth - we can only see so much online.

put some clear nail-polish over scratched portion (if any) of the dent to prevent rust.

Err, what context was that? I quoted your entire text there... :)