Patching tubes
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100 no problem
After you apply the patch inflate the tire so the diameter of the tube is appoximately the same siz as it would be in the tire and wrap with electrical tape, the thin kind that stretches slightly, this will help hold the patch in place.
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If you are patching the tube correctly, scuffing the tube and allowing the glue to set before applying the patch, this step is unnecessary.
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Pinch flats CAN be patched...and what shop in Austin do you go to?....Bicycle Sport Shop? The guy is cluless...I run 100+ PSI in patched tubes with no problems. He just wants to sell marked up tubes.
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Spaceface--I usually go down South on my long rides. Out to 1826 and 45. Dripping springs area. Sometimes around Circle C.
Armybikerider--yeah bicycle sport shop was the one. Good to know, I have about 15 tubes lying aroundt hat only have 1 tiny hole in them each. I'm gonna get a patch kit and patch them all up so I don't have to buy tubes for years!
Also, I started running gatorskins in the 2 months since I posted in this thread and haven't gotten a flat since...it's a record for me.
Armybikerider--yeah bicycle sport shop was the one. Good to know, I have about 15 tubes lying aroundt hat only have 1 tiny hole in them each. I'm gonna get a patch kit and patch them all up so I don't have to buy tubes for years!
Also, I started running gatorskins in the 2 months since I posted in this thread and haven't gotten a flat since...it's a record for me.
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I put new njs tubes in after every ride. nbd.
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When one applies a glued patch they need to realize that the patch and tube undergo a chemical vulcanizing process and if done properly, will not cause any failure. The tube and patch will become one and you will not be able to remove it.
After you prep the area with a light sanding apply a thin layer of glue and allow it to set and by this, it should not feel tacky. This setting time depends on ambient temperature and in cooler environments the set up time for the glue increases.
Apply the patch and roll it out with a tyre lever to ensure no air is trapped, remount the tyre, inflate and ride.
There is no need to wrap tape around a patch if it is installed correctly.
The time it takes to patch a tube is not much more than swapping a tube, very economical, and environmentally friendly.
I carry a spare tube in the event I suffer a catastrophic tube failure and in many cases the "new" tube goes in and the old tube gets patched when I have time to mend it. That tube then becomes the new spare.
I experience very few flats... I run Schwalbe Marathons on my high mileage bikes and have been flat free for many thousands upon thousands of km.
After you prep the area with a light sanding apply a thin layer of glue and allow it to set and by this, it should not feel tacky. This setting time depends on ambient temperature and in cooler environments the set up time for the glue increases.
Apply the patch and roll it out with a tyre lever to ensure no air is trapped, remount the tyre, inflate and ride.
There is no need to wrap tape around a patch if it is installed correctly.
The time it takes to patch a tube is not much more than swapping a tube, very economical, and environmentally friendly.
I carry a spare tube in the event I suffer a catastrophic tube failure and in many cases the "new" tube goes in and the old tube gets patched when I have time to mend it. That tube then becomes the new spare.
I experience very few flats... I run Schwalbe Marathons on my high mileage bikes and have been flat free for many thousands upon thousands of km.
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The tube looked like swiss cheese but was still patchable.
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I have about a 1 in 5 success ratio with the glueless patches. Never had a problem with the old school shiz though. I've ridden tubes with several patches. I only through tubes out when my Stan's Sealant gets hard inside the tube. That has saved me from patching many a goathead puncture!
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Pro Tip- The automotive section of many stores sells cheaper patch kits than the bike shop.
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I'm finding that the difference between the Elmer's rubber cement and the rubber cement you get in the tubes that come as bike tube repair kits is that the cement in the tubes is a lot thinner and more likely to go into the small poors of the rubber. The cement in the small tubes also contains ethyl alcohol and heptane to make it thinner. Does anybody thin their elmers glue? I have seen where the cement peels off the rubber. Is there a chemical which actually loosens or thins/desolves the rubber itself? Also is a thicker or thinner layer found to be better to make a better patch?
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Also, I have two patches in the back and one in the front. The first two were at the same time (pinch flats I believe, with 2 holes) and I think they were due to improper installation and over-inflation of the tube. The other one who knows but all the patches have been holding for months.
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I can't tell if you guys are being serious or you're joking about the fixed gear specific patches because that sounds like a bunch of BS
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Yeah, it's no laughing matter- because it isn't very funny.
I suggest the older style of patch with rubber cement over any kind of glueless patch. With a little patience when installing them (apply cement in a larger area than you need, wait several minutes after applying the cement, and hold the entire patch on the cement for a couple minutes), they NEVER fail.
I suggest the older style of patch with rubber cement over any kind of glueless patch. With a little patience when installing them (apply cement in a larger area than you need, wait several minutes after applying the cement, and hold the entire patch on the cement for a couple minutes), they NEVER fail.
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Inner tubes DO NOT hold pressure, tires do.
I've never been a fan glueless patches, they seem to high failure rate.
Vulcanizing patches as mentioned by sixtyfiver are the best way to go.
Make sure your tube size is very close to your tire size. Running an 18-20c tube in 28c tire is bad. As the tube streches to fill the tire the patched are doesnt stretch as much and stresses the patch which can lead to patch failure.
Its a sad day when some of you believe there's such a thing a fixie specific patches. Back to tricycles for you!!
I've never been a fan glueless patches, they seem to high failure rate.
Vulcanizing patches as mentioned by sixtyfiver are the best way to go.
Make sure your tube size is very close to your tire size. Running an 18-20c tube in 28c tire is bad. As the tube streches to fill the tire the patched are doesnt stretch as much and stresses the patch which can lead to patch failure.
Its a sad day when some of you believe there's such a thing a fixie specific patches. Back to tricycles for you!!
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Oh my god. Are people really asking whether or not it's ok to patch a tube? Seriously? Holy *****.
Mommy, Daddy, buy me a new bike! This one's got a flat tire!
Mommy, Daddy, buy me a new bike! This one's got a flat tire!
#48
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Hey I'm glad you brought this up, Jakerock. I am interested in this also and asked a guy at my LBS this weekend about whether or not you could patch tubes that were to be inflated to ~100PSI. He said that the patches wouldn't hold air in at that PSI. That they would work for a short while, but that air would leak out so you would have to pump them back up constantly. Anyone else experience this? It sounds like it works for all of you, but this guy works at one of the most reputable bike shops in Austin, so it seems like he would know what he's talking about...
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one thing ive noticed when patching tubes is that the tube doesnt expand as much at the area of the patch when inflating. could this be a problem?