Search
Notices
Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

Patching tubes

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-03-09, 05:50 PM
  #26  
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 3
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
100 no problem

After you apply the patch inflate the tire so the diameter of the tube is appoximately the same siz as it would be in the tire and wrap with electrical tape, the thin kind that stretches slightly, this will help hold the patch in place.
bikeforfree is offline  
Old 07-03-09, 07:13 PM
  #27  
Pants are for suckaz
 
HandsomeRyan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Mt. Airy, MD
Posts: 2,578

Bikes: Hardtail MTB, Fixed gear, and Commuter bike

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by bikeforfree
After you apply the patch inflate the tire so the diameter of the tube is appoximately the same siz as it would be in the tire and wrap with electrical tape, the thin kind that stretches slightly, this will help hold the patch in place.
If you are patching the tube correctly, scuffing the tube and allowing the glue to set before applying the patch, this step is unnecessary.
HandsomeRyan is offline  
Old 07-03-09, 07:18 PM
  #28  
Full Member
 
armybikerider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: North TX
Posts: 326

Bikes: Lynskey R330 Chris Bishop custom steel road bike

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 51 Post(s)
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Pinch flats CAN be patched...and what shop in Austin do you go to?....Bicycle Sport Shop? The guy is cluless...I run 100+ PSI in patched tubes with no problems. He just wants to sell marked up tubes.

David
armybikerider is offline  
Old 07-03-09, 07:35 PM
  #29  
Comanche Racing
 
PedallingATX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Deep in the heart of Texas
Posts: 2,820

Bikes: Presto NJS build, Specialized Allez Pro w/ full Dura Ace and Ksyrium SLs, 1990something Specialized Sirrus

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Spaceface--I usually go down South on my long rides. Out to 1826 and 45. Dripping springs area. Sometimes around Circle C.

Armybikerider--yeah bicycle sport shop was the one. Good to know, I have about 15 tubes lying aroundt hat only have 1 tiny hole in them each. I'm gonna get a patch kit and patch them all up so I don't have to buy tubes for years!

Also, I started running gatorskins in the 2 months since I posted in this thread and haven't gotten a flat since...it's a record for me.
PedallingATX is offline  
Old 07-04-09, 01:28 AM
  #30  
Zoom zoom zoom zoom bonk
 
znomit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 4,624

Bikes: Giant Defy, Trek 1.7c, BMC GF02, Fuji Tahoe, Scott Sub 35, Kona Rove, Trek Verve+2

Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 551 Post(s)
Liked 722 Times in 366 Posts
Originally Posted by jakerock
It seems unamerican to not just go out and get a brand new tube,


Funniest thing I've seen on BF in ages.
znomit is offline  
Old 07-04-09, 01:31 AM
  #31  
Fresh Garbage
 
hairnet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 13,190

Bikes: N+1

Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 352 Post(s)
Liked 27 Times in 18 Posts
Originally Posted by znomit


Funniest thing I've seen on BF in ages.
ahh but in these hard economic times who wants to buy a new tube?
hairnet is offline  
Old 07-04-09, 01:47 AM
  #32  
:)
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: duluth
Posts: 3,391

Bikes: '07 Pista, '09 Fantom Cross Uno, '8? Miyata, '67 Stingray, '0? Zoo mod trials, Tallbike, Chopper, '73 Schwinn Collegiate, '67 Triumph Chopper, '69 CB350, '58 BSA Spitfire, '73 CB450

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I put new njs tubes in after every ride. nbd.
ianjk is offline  
Old 07-04-09, 02:09 AM
  #33  
Bicycle Repair Man !!!
 
Sixty Fiver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: YEG
Posts: 27,267

Bikes: See my sig...

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 67 Post(s)
Liked 129 Times in 96 Posts
When one applies a glued patch they need to realize that the patch and tube undergo a chemical vulcanizing process and if done properly, will not cause any failure. The tube and patch will become one and you will not be able to remove it.

After you prep the area with a light sanding apply a thin layer of glue and allow it to set and by this, it should not feel tacky. This setting time depends on ambient temperature and in cooler environments the set up time for the glue increases.

Apply the patch and roll it out with a tyre lever to ensure no air is trapped, remount the tyre, inflate and ride.

There is no need to wrap tape around a patch if it is installed correctly.

The time it takes to patch a tube is not much more than swapping a tube, very economical, and environmentally friendly.

I carry a spare tube in the event I suffer a catastrophic tube failure and in many cases the "new" tube goes in and the old tube gets patched when I have time to mend it. That tube then becomes the new spare.

I experience very few flats... I run Schwalbe Marathons on my high mileage bikes and have been flat free for many thousands upon thousands of km.
Sixty Fiver is offline  
Old 07-04-09, 02:14 AM
  #34  
Bicycle Repair Man !!!
 
Sixty Fiver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: YEG
Posts: 27,267

Bikes: See my sig...

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 67 Post(s)
Liked 129 Times in 96 Posts
Originally Posted by PedallingATX
Also, I started running gatorskins in the 2 months since I posted in this thread and haven't gotten a flat since...it's a record for me.
I went 12,000 miles without a flat and then had several that all happened to my old cruisers that picked up big assed nails... one short nail embedded itself in the tyre and went through one side of the tube and on every rotation was just long enough to punch a new hole on the opposite side of the tube.

The tube looked like swiss cheese but was still patchable.
Sixty Fiver is offline  
Old 07-04-09, 01:29 PM
  #35  
Real Men Ride Ordinaries
 
fuzz2050's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,723
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by yellowbeard
be sure to use fixed gear specific patches and glue. Regular patches can't withstand the tremendous forces produced with a fixed gear drivetrain.

+1
fuzz2050 is offline  
Old 07-04-09, 02:28 PM
  #36  
a.k.a. QUADZILLA
 
LoRoK's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Denver
Posts: 1,505

Bikes: Super Pista, Basso, Big Dummy

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I have about a 1 in 5 success ratio with the glueless patches. Never had a problem with the old school shiz though. I've ridden tubes with several patches. I only through tubes out when my Stan's Sealant gets hard inside the tube. That has saved me from patching many a goathead puncture!
LoRoK is offline  
Old 07-04-09, 03:46 PM
  #37  
Pants are for suckaz
 
HandsomeRyan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Mt. Airy, MD
Posts: 2,578

Bikes: Hardtail MTB, Fixed gear, and Commuter bike

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Pro Tip- The automotive section of many stores sells cheaper patch kits than the bike shop.
HandsomeRyan is offline  
Old 07-06-09, 07:51 PM
  #38  
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 3
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'm finding that the difference between the Elmer's rubber cement and the rubber cement you get in the tubes that come as bike tube repair kits is that the cement in the tubes is a lot thinner and more likely to go into the small poors of the rubber. The cement in the small tubes also contains ethyl alcohol and heptane to make it thinner. Does anybody thin their elmers glue? I have seen where the cement peels off the rubber. Is there a chemical which actually loosens or thins/desolves the rubber itself? Also is a thicker or thinner layer found to be better to make a better patch?
bikeforfree is offline  
Old 07-06-09, 09:23 PM
  #39  
sic transit gloria mundi
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 31
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Yellowbeard
Be sure to use fixed gear specific patches and glue. Regular patches can't withstand the tremendous forces produced with a fixed gear drivetrain.
This.

Also, I have two patches in the back and one in the front. The first two were at the same time (pinch flats I believe, with 2 holes) and I think they were due to improper installation and over-inflation of the tube. The other one who knows but all the patches have been holding for months.
Halfmast is offline  
Old 07-07-09, 01:16 AM
  #40  
Senior Member
 
IbikezLA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 459
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I can't tell if you guys are being serious or you're joking about the fixed gear specific patches because that sounds like a bunch of BS
IbikezLA is offline  
Old 07-07-09, 05:04 AM
  #41  
hi
 
YoKev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Kingston, NY
Posts: 2,605
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
it's no joke
YoKev is offline  
Old 07-07-09, 07:10 AM
  #42  
Senior Member
 
aMull's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Toronto
Posts: 1,779

Bikes: Leader 735TR 09 58cm 46/17

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Definitely use fixed specific patches, the color of mine match my spokes.
aMull is offline  
Old 07-07-09, 07:21 AM
  #43  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Central CA
Posts: 1,414

Bikes: A little of everything

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Yeah, it's no laughing matter- because it isn't very funny.

I suggest the older style of patch with rubber cement over any kind of glueless patch. With a little patience when installing them (apply cement in a larger area than you need, wait several minutes after applying the cement, and hold the entire patch on the cement for a couple minutes), they NEVER fail.
Raiden is offline  
Old 07-07-09, 07:35 AM
  #44  
¡Senor Member!
 
time bandit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: South Philly
Posts: 1,710
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
i patch tubes until they blow at the valve... you can patch patches too. its ******** to buy new tubes
time bandit is offline  
Old 07-07-09, 09:02 AM
  #45  
Senior Member
 
miamijim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 13,954
Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 413 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 109 Times in 78 Posts
Inner tubes DO NOT hold pressure, tires do.

I've never been a fan glueless patches, they seem to high failure rate.

Vulcanizing patches as mentioned by sixtyfiver are the best way to go.

Make sure your tube size is very close to your tire size. Running an 18-20c tube in 28c tire is bad. As the tube streches to fill the tire the patched are doesnt stretch as much and stresses the patch which can lead to patch failure.


Its a sad day when some of you believe there's such a thing a fixie specific patches. Back to tricycles for you!!
miamijim is offline  
Old 07-07-09, 09:49 AM
  #46  
:)
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: duluth
Posts: 3,391

Bikes: '07 Pista, '09 Fantom Cross Uno, '8? Miyata, '67 Stingray, '0? Zoo mod trials, Tallbike, Chopper, '73 Schwinn Collegiate, '67 Triumph Chopper, '69 CB350, '58 BSA Spitfire, '73 CB450

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
ianjk is offline  
Old 07-07-09, 12:59 PM
  #47  
Banned.
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: philly
Posts: 994
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Oh my god. Are people really asking whether or not it's ok to patch a tube? Seriously? Holy *****.

Mommy, Daddy, buy me a new bike! This one's got a flat tire!
skinnyland is offline  
Old 07-07-09, 01:44 PM
  #48  
aka mattio
 
queerpunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 6,586

Bikes: yes

Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 344 Post(s)
Liked 58 Times in 35 Posts
Originally Posted by PedallingATX
Hey I'm glad you brought this up, Jakerock. I am interested in this also and asked a guy at my LBS this weekend about whether or not you could patch tubes that were to be inflated to ~100PSI. He said that the patches wouldn't hold air in at that PSI. That they would work for a short while, but that air would leak out so you would have to pump them back up constantly. Anyone else experience this? It sounds like it works for all of you, but this guy works at one of the most reputable bike shops in Austin, so it seems like he would know what he's talking about...
B
U
L
L
S
H
I
T

Your shopmonkey from a reputable shop is trying to sell you tubes.
queerpunk is offline  
Old 07-07-09, 01:56 PM
  #49  
Recreational Commuter
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Central Ohio
Posts: 1,024

Bikes: One brand-less build-up, and a Connondale Synapse Carbon Ultegra Disc. A nicer bike than I need, but it was a good deal, so... ;-)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by Yellowbeard
Be sure to use fixed gear specific patches and glue. Regular patches can't withstand the tremendous forces produced with a fixed gear drivetrain.
Kotts is offline  
Old 07-07-09, 02:34 PM
  #50  
Senior Member
 
passerby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: california
Posts: 293

Bikes: 08 Schwinn Madison

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
one thing ive noticed when patching tubes is that the tube doesnt expand as much at the area of the patch when inflating. could this be a problem?
passerby is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.