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SoHo S rear hub question

Old 04-09-09, 09:16 PM
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SoHo S rear hub question

Just picked up a new SoHo S and when I got home, I noticed that even though it's supposed to be a flip hub, there is only one sprocket. Should there be two sprockets or is it just a matter of switching the one sprocket when you flip the wheel?

Apologies if this is a stupid question - I'm brand new to the SS/FG world.

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Old 04-09-09, 10:02 PM
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The thing on your wheel is a freewheel:



the other side is threaded for fixed-- a cog:



and a lockring:



the soho s doesn't come with these; you'll have to buy them (and the tools below).
do a search of the board for "how to install a cog and lockring", look it up on sheldon brown, or call your local shop or co-op for advice.

you'll need:
1) grease
2) a chain whip (or chain if used with the rotafix method)
3) a lockring wrench

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Old 04-09-09, 10:05 PM
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uhhh

it either should have come with it ON THE hub or the freewheel just comes separate and u put it on...

if u relaly wanted a freewheel and didnt come w/ it, go back to where u bought it and tell them

a freewheel is for single speed and fixed cog is for fixed gear. two are two different sprockets.

edit: spooki you sure they dont come w/ it? mine came w/ both free and fixed...
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you might be right... i looked at the cog, it's the same gunmetal color as the chainring and guard.

i don't ride that bike much, so when he said what he did i just assumed he was right.

yes-- it should come free/fixed. call the shop to arrange to have the cog and lockring put on.
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Although I don't foresee me riding fixed, it irks me that the shop didn't catch this when they were doing the assembly. Thanks for the replies - it's good to know that I wasn't imagining things.
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Originally Posted by Towjam View Post
Although I don't foresee me riding fixed, it irks me that the shop didn't catch this when they were doing the assembly. Thanks for the replies - it's good to know that I wasn't imagining things.
Well the trek site specs says 17t freewheel only. Doesn't mention any fixed cog.
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Yeah, mine's got both. Looking at a stock photo I see both as well.

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Mine didn't come with a track cog. I had to buy it from the Trek store. I even asked about it and they told me it was not included.
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Old 04-10-09, 08:04 AM
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'08 s came with cog and freewheel (mine has both), '09 only freewheel.
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Old 04-10-09, 09:19 AM
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Mine was an '08. I probably just got screwed. Wouldn't put it past Trek, I've not enjoyed dealing with them.
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Just spoke with my dealer and they said that although the S does come with a flip hub, the fixed cog is an accessory - not included with the bike.
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Mine came with one. Trek is not a fun company to deal with.
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Originally Posted by jdmitch View Post
'08 s came with cog and freewheel (mine has both), '09 only freewheel.
aha. there's the answer. i got mine in 08.
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Old 04-10-09, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by brandonspeck View Post
Mine came with one. Trek is not a fun company to deal with.
you realize this is the same company that maintains a lifetime warranty on frames, right?
did you read the post about the guy who warrantied is 1980's trek frame-- which they upheld with an upgrade to an equivalent 08? Turned out to be a carbon fiber something or other, i forget.
Regardless, for a larger company they appear to do well for their customers.
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Originally Posted by Towjam View Post
Just spoke with my dealer and they said that although the S does come with a flip hub, the fixed cog is an accessory - not included with the bike.
That is true... for '09

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Mine was an '08. I probably just got screwed. Wouldn't put it past Trek, I've not enjoyed dealing with them.
Are you sure it was an '08? Or, did you just purchase it in '08? Much like most auto companies, Trek switched to the '09 production in late '08. Since the removal of the cog seems to be the only spec difference (that I've been able to find), I have no idea how to tell which year it was manufactured.

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you realize this is the same company that maintains a lifetime warranty on frames, right?
did you read the post about the guy who warrantied is 1980's trek frame-- which they upheld with an upgrade to an equivalent 08? Turned out to be a carbon fiber something or other, i forget.
Regardless, for a larger company they appear to do well for their customers.
Agreed. Brandonspeck, you have to differentiate between Trek and the particular Trek dealer your working with (unless, of course, you're dealing with one of the few Trek factory stores)
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Originally Posted by Rex81 View Post
Yeah, mine's got both. Looking at a stock photo I see both as well.

Dude the fixed cog is the least of your worries. How do you get air in the tires!
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Originally Posted by Abe Froman View Post
Dude the fixed cog is the least of your worries. How do you get air in the tires!
Ha! I don't think I ever noticed that...
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puncture resistant tires are standard on soho s
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Here's the scoop!

08's came with the freewheel and the fixed cog installed. Your dealer isn't going to take the time to pull the fixed cog and lockring off just to screw you over. They already have plenty of those things layng around.

09's do not come with a fixed cog. Your dealer will gladly set you up with one for a few bucks. Like I said before, they have plenty of those things layng around...
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Originally Posted by Abe Froman View Post
Dude the fixed cog is the least of your worries. How do you get air in the tires!
You're telling me you don't hide the valve stems behind the fork or rear triangle when you're photographing your rides? For shame

I have a '07 Trek T1 and it came with both cog and freewheel...I believe that Trek (direct from the manufacture) includes both cog and freewheel but it is the individual dealers that decide whether or not they include both only because I've seen them being sold with only a cog at certain instances and both in other cases.

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Originally Posted by Towjam View Post
Just picked up a new SoHo S and when I got home, I noticed that even though it's supposed to be a flip hub, there is only one sprocket. Should there be two sprockets or is it just a matter of switching the one sprocket when you flip the wheel?

Apologies if this is a stupid question - I'm brand new to the SS/FG world.

thanks!
You have a flip flop hub, as advertised. That doesn't mean it has a fixed gear cog and a free wheel attached to it.
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Originally Posted by sp00ki View Post
you realize this is the same company that maintains a lifetime warranty on frames, right?
Yeah, cause they fail.
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I wonder if they do this because of liability concerns?
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