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Am I a loser because I don't have a car and prefer riding?

Old 05-27-09, 03:15 PM
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Yeah ... sweating is one drawback to having a bike rather than a car. I always carry a change of clothes. I very rarely (if ever) need to use them though, as I don't sweat much. But it is good to have in the even that I really had to mash my way to wherever I was going and the sweat is just uncomfortable.
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Old 05-27-09, 03:19 PM
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ok, totally hating on motorists now; a ****ing car HIT me on purpose earlier. for at least the rest of the day I'm going to want to punch anyone driving a car in the face.
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Old 05-27-09, 03:20 PM
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On purpose? That's intense.

It sounds outrageous, but I can actually believe it happened to you because I've seen it happen before.
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Old 05-27-09, 03:21 PM
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Did you report it, iolas?
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Originally Posted by iolas View Post
ok, totally hating on motorists now; a ****ing car HIT me on purpose earlier. for at least the rest of the day I'm going to want to punch anyone driving a car in the face.
i have an idea.... kinda silly, but could work, get a small peice of paper, and use double sided tape and tape to ur trousers, if any a hole pisses you off, or harms you just write down the numberplate... job done
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Old 05-27-09, 03:37 PM
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yeah, but I couldn't get his whole license plate number in time, because I hit the ground facing the side of his vehicle, and he sped out of there, by the time I got myself up, he was gone. all I could give was just a general description of his truck/what he looked like. he saw me coming, made eye contact, yelled out his window calling me a "dumb *****" and demanding I "get the **** off the road" and sped up. I wasn't terribly hurt, but I'm still so mad!
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Old 05-27-09, 03:43 PM
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Yeah that incident is infuriating ... just be happy you're alive though. He could have easily killed you. Motorists don't realize just how dangerous their automobiles are. To other motorists even, not just cyclists.
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Old 05-27-09, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Gyeswho View Post
I don't agree with that at all. The point is either one is a form of transportation and if you can get around why should one say you're successful or not. If you can't afford a car and ride to a bike to get where you need to, so what? There are a lot of people who can't afford a car and still own one.
+1

Cars are a mode of transportation that have become some kind of status symbol. Things like food, rent, mortgage....etc are all more important. It's really not what you drive that makes you who you are.

Ever watched that show "king of cars"? Holy crap are american consumers stupid and desperate to look good to their peers so they'll be accepted.

Although....Alot of people in this country bought houses they couldn't afford and that wound up working great!
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Old 05-27-09, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by iolas View Post
yeah, but I couldn't get his whole license plate number in time, because I hit the ground facing the side of his vehicle, and he sped out of there, by the time I got myself up, he was gone. all I could give was just a general description of his truck/what he looked like. he saw me coming, made eye contact, yelled out his window calling me a "dumb *****" and demanding I "get the **** off the road" and sped up. I wasn't terribly hurt, but I'm still so mad!
Damn, dude, that really sucks.
I hope too much damage wasn't done.

I almost had a run in like this yesterday, regarding the person seeing me, but then continuing as though I were an illusion. It was a four-way stop, and I reached the line quite a bit before the other person coming from my right. I was stopped, made eye contact with her as she stopped, then proceeded. For some reason, she thought it was a good idea to start going, then slammed on her brakes...

I just stared at her as I crossed, shaking my head in disappointment.
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Old 05-27-09, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by iansmash View Post
(when I have a license...currently mine is suspended)
I know a lot of people who would call someone who has a suspended license a loser. How can any responsible adult lose their drivers license? Especially when the circumstances leading up to the suspension of the license can be controlled by the person with the license.

Unlike say....the economy, which is beyond the control of one person.
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Old 05-27-09, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by elTwitcho View Post
You go on equating a person's worth with their economic status though, I'm sure that'll take you to some real fulfilling places in the future
As long as he can bike there, since he drive the car with a suspended license.
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Old 05-27-09, 04:20 PM
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I have been carless for nearly a year and a half. I took a cab to work for over a year, and it was still less than half what I was spending in payments, fuel and insurance. This year I decided that as I was now only a couple of miles from work, I was going to ride a bike, as I did in '02 when I was without a car then. I stopped paying for a cab, and I stopped smoking. One month of savings paid for a new MTB. I could afford something in the way of a vehicle; I'd really like an old pickup just for occasional photography jaunts, groceries and general goofing around.

But I really enjoy riding my bike, and I don't mind being without a car at all.
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Old 05-27-09, 04:29 PM
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Great thread. I'm going to a party/thing for a graduating friend. Can pretty much guarantee I'll be the only one who rides there. No biggie.
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Old 05-27-09, 04:29 PM
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Took a cab to work? Jesus. I didn't really think about that but I guess that's what you can do in some cities.
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Old 05-27-09, 04:51 PM
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devilshaircut, I could have been riding a bike then, instead of using a cab, but 1) I was being a wuss, and 2) I could afford it. Now I'd rather save my money. So I can buy a new SS/FG next year.
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Originally Posted by iansmash View Post
I wasn't using cars, or the ownership of them, as a status symbol.


I was simply using it as a financial benchmark.

I'm saying, you're a loser if you CAN'T own a car and you're a full time working person. You're not a loser if, given the ability, hence the choice, you CHOOSE not to own a vehicle.


Furthermore, I don't consider my Leader the epitome of anything. I like them for their low price and passable quality.
Ding ding ding. I'm sorry, but there are tons of cheap used cars out there, insurance isn't very expensive, and gas isn't very expensive unless you drive a gas hog. If you're an adult, not in college, and can't afford a car, you got on the wrong bus somewhere in your life. Period. Car maintance isnt a big deal either, most people would be suprised how easy it is to fix most things that break on a car.

It makes me LULZ that people who buy overpriced components and hang them on a fixed gear frame for the look are talking **** about cars being a status symbol. Hello pot, this is kettle, and I'm BLACK!

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Old 05-27-09, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by clink83 View Post
Ding ding ding. I'm sorry, but there are tons of cheap used cars out there, insurance isn't very expensive, and gas isn't very expensive unless you drive a gas hog. If you're an adult, not in college, and can't afford a car, you got on the wrong bus somewhere in your life. Period. Car maintance isnt a big deal either, most people would be suprised how easy it is to fix most things that break on a car.
I really don't think that everyone in the category that you've identified can be subjected to the ridicule you've described. I have a friend that's a school teacher who relies on public transportation. She can't afford a car because she makes a low salary and is paying back school loans--and the acquisition of educational loans really does not qualify as getting on the wrong bus in life. It's not my intention to be a d*ck, but using blanket statements like that is just wrong.
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clink83, how old are you? Where do you live? How far do you have to travel to work? All of these things have direct bearing on insurance costs. How many miles for work versus miles for pleasure? Fuel costs are obviously tied to distance, but insurance has many variables.

Some people put their money into other things. They could afford a car if it was a priority. It used to be one for me, but it isn't any longer. I want my money for things I couldn't afford before, like going out with friends and being able to pay the tab myself, or putting money aside for a trip, or living like someone who has more money than I do, because I don't have a car sucking up money. The older a car is, the more it's going to suck. I know this to be true :-)
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if people give you crap, punch them in the dick until they fall down.
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Originally Posted by devilshaircut View Post
Took a cab to work? Jesus. I didn't really think about that but I guess that's what you can do in some cities.
Yeah, thinking of a cab as a main means of transportation is a weird concept to me, mainly because I do not see many out here. The majority of cabs I do see are all ones you have to call in advance then wait, instead of hollering across the street for one.
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Originally Posted by iansmash View Post
I'm saying, you're a loser if you CAN'T own a car and you're a full time working person. You're not a loser if, given the ability, hence the choice, you CHOOSE not to own a vehicle.
You have no ****ing clue how unfair and difficult life can be.

Why not have a more charitable attitude, and have some empathy and understanding for someone in that situation, rather than throwing out names that imply they should label themselves as unworthy of anything in life?

Do you spit on homeless people too?
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iolas: that's the worst feeling in the world: you doing nothing wrong and some egotistical, vigilante automobile driver just blatantly hurts you...

devilshaircut: I don't know about anyone else, but ever since I've been cycling on a daily basis, sweat doesn't bother me very much. If it's necessary, I just make sure I have a change of clothes and just wash my face off at a sink.
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Originally Posted by iansmash View Post
In my opinion, a grown adult that can't afford to spend like $1k on a car plus like $100/month in insurance+$50/month in gas so like...


$2,800/year to have a car


Cars aren't that expensive





I completely agree that in some situations it doesn't make SENSE to own a car...but if you can't afford to pay for it that makes you a loser in my book.


In most major cities, you can get by w/o a car and it's really inconvenient to own one in many. That said, I would never NOT own a car.


I have 2 cars, I choose not to drive (when I have a license...currently mine is suspended) them because I can get around using public transport, my feet and most importantly, my bicycle.

But you know what, when it's pouring rain, and I need to get across town with both of my dogs and my girlfriend, I don't mind hopping in the car.
Oh right...it's "Worthington's Law"...
Money = Personal Worth.

You're a ****ing moron.
Only in America would people think that you are a Loser if you
can't afford a car. Pull your head out of your ass.
Money does not equate to anything.
Congrats on owning 2 cars.... i'm so ****ing proud of you.
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Originally Posted by iansmash View Post
I was simply using it as a financial benchmark.

I'm saying, you're a loser if you CAN'T own a car and you're a full time working person. You're not a loser if, given the ability, hence the choice, you CHOOSE not to own a vehicle.
There are people who make a fraction of what I make that I am envious of. I'm sorry but I just don't think that even for you, when you are in the twilight of your life and have only your memories, it won't be a measure of financial benchmarks you've met that will have you looking back and smiling.

Respectfully, I think you need to evaluate your priorities a bit.
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