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Am I a loser because I don't have a car and prefer riding?

Old 05-27-09, 11:27 PM
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Tell them that felons (especially those who have murdered more than 20 prostitutes, whose bodies were never found) aren't allowed licenses.

That should shut them up.
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Old 05-28-09, 12:35 AM
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Holy ****. Why did I just read all of that?
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Old 05-28-09, 12:59 AM
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Generally I'm at a 20-25 mph pace, so cars have no reason to talk ****, because it's something they sure as hell can't do.
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Old 05-28-09, 01:20 AM
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My car goes 25 mph**********??
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Old 05-28-09, 01:27 AM
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i get sh*t all the time for riding a bike around campus for christ sake..

face it guys..we live in an automobile country..we're gonna get sh*t for ryding
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Old 05-28-09, 02:29 AM
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yes this is true. we live in a fat money hungry country. what happened to the pursuit of happiness. no, not the movie (pursuit of boredom). RIDE HARD SWIFT AND TRUE! hahaha race those cars.
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Old 05-28-09, 08:33 AM
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A little gas rationing would do the trick to get people out of their cars (once the whining stopped).
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Old 05-28-09, 09:21 AM
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I think i want to move to Copenhagen. I'm pretty sure no one gets called a loser for riding there.


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Old 05-28-09, 09:24 AM
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About Copenhagen, all my friends who have been there also tell me it is biker's paradise.

It's probably different in Asia.

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Old 05-28-09, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by radiocontrolhea View Post
Generally I'm at a 20-25 mph pace, so cars have no reason to talk ****, because it's something they sure as hell can't do.
I generally ride this fast too and I still get complaints. I've found that the problem is when a person is driving they really have no sense of how fast they are going because they are stationary. If they had a face full of wind and had to do some type of work in a car, then maybe they'd stop giving so much heat to us.

Whenever I am in a car with someone's who driving I process how fast 25mph feels when driving and the truth is it really does feel "slow" when you're not going anywhere. I think if everyone learned to both ride and drive (and drivers become instilled with patience), then we have a better understand of each other (more so drivers having a better understanding of what we have to deal with)
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Old 05-28-09, 09:43 AM
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Yeah, I was just kidding about the Asia comment. With the population issues much of Asia has, I am sure bikes are quite common. I've always thought it would be the coolest thing to be able to say "I have biked Tokyo.". One day!
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Old 05-28-09, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 2wheelsgood View Post
you must have some sort of magical car that never breaks down(and if you bought it for $1000 I highly doubt it would last a year without needing some kind of repair). It's gonna cost more than that to own and operate a car for a year.
My primary automobile has a KBB value of $955 and 270,000 miles on it, and has never "broken down". 15 years of ownership and hasn't needed anything beyond brakes belts and oil.

Insurance on it is also about $400. Per year.

Generalizations are dumb on either side, but I tend to agree with the notion that, if you're an adult with a full-time job, you should probably be able to make room in your budget for a car if you need one.

If you don't need one, by all means spend your money elsewhere.
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Old 05-28-09, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dsh View Post
My primary automobile has a KBB value of $955 and 270,000 miles on it, and has never "broken down". 15 years of ownership and hasn't needed anything beyond brakes belts and oil.

Insurance on it is also about $400. Per year.

Generalizations are dumb on either side, but I tend to agree with the notion that, if you're an adult with a full-time job, you should probably be able to make room in your budget for a car if you need one.

If you don't need one, by all means spend your money elsewhere.

EXACTLY.



I find it interesting that one of the few people who agrees with me hails from the same locale.

(I'm originally from Arlington, VA...living in Richmond for school)
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Old 05-28-09, 02:35 PM
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Just to play the devils advocate, not everyone has a Japanese car.

Kidding ... but seriously though I had a '98 Sentra that lasted forever with zero problems ... vs a '95 Grand Cherokee which gave me nothing but problems.

When the GC finally blew up I just said screw it I am riding bikes for the rest of my life.
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Old 05-28-09, 02:42 PM
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"Well, well, well, looks like we've got ourselves some cyclists".

I don't own a car, my gf carries all our groceries (I am lazy) on a twenty year old Gazelle with a front and rear rack and I live in the greatest cycling country in the world; cycle paths everywhere!
If you US peddlers ever decide to emigrate, come to my country!
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Originally Posted by devilshaircut View Post
Just to play the devils advocate, not everyone has a Japanese car.
1989 Ford Ranger

When you don't have power steering, power windows, power locks, or anything else, there's a lot less to break. The 4-cylinder engine produced 100 HP when it was new, so I figure it's pushing about half that after a quarter million miles. But you know what? It gets me where I need to go.
Kidding ... but seriously though I had a '98 Sentra that lasted forever with zero problems ... vs a '95 Grand Cherokee which gave me nothing but problems.
That's hilarious! I owned a '96 Grand Cherokee as well, and after getting tired of the constant issues that came with it I "gifted" it to a my youngest brother when he went off to school.

Sorry, little brother!

When the GC finally blew up I just said screw it I am riding bikes for the rest of my life.
You know I keep telling myself "I'll get a new car when the Ranger blows up..." but I'm beginning to wonder when that might be, if ever.
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Old 05-28-09, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by devilshaircut View Post
Just to play the devils advocate, not everyone has a Japanese car.

Kidding ... but seriously though I had a '98 Sentra that lasted forever with zero problems ... vs a '95 Grand Cherokee which gave me nothing but problems.

When the GC finally blew up I just said screw it I am riding bikes for the rest of my life.
I also have a 95 grand cherokee. It no longer goes in reverse for more than 3 seconds before stalling, so getting out of parking lots is now actiony.

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Old 05-28-09, 03:42 PM
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Don't worry.

First of all, you sir are not a loser in any way. Riding a bicycle is simply a choice that is correct for some, and not for others. Some people want/like/need a car for some reason or another.. others donít. I would wager most people do not need it, but have one anyways. Itís a luxury that they choose to embrace. Nothing is wrong with that really.

Donít worry about people giving you crap. I live in Phoenix and havenít had a car in a year. Iíve had a girlfriend during that, and it was a non-issue. I just went on a date yesterday even, again, a non issue. That chick was a cyclist too. People come in all different types.. some of them are willing to fore-go a luxury in order to maintain a simpler lifestyle. Nothing is wrong with that at all. In some cultures it is actually a very admirable trait.

Cheers,

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Old 05-28-09, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by iansmash View Post
EXACTLY.



I find it interesting that one of the few people who agrees with me hails from the same locale.

(I'm originally from Arlington, VA...living in Richmond for school)
and your location plays a vital role in prices of insurance and car prices too, so keep that in mind.

I think there may be more to your POV than you're explaining, because you may be a frugal person who knows how to budget himself, unfortunately not everyone knows/wants to do this fine art. Sadly, for you to call someone a loser based on not having enough $ (due to variable factors) for owning a car as a benchmark of success, is a really really low blow and a very ignorant POV.
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Old 05-28-09, 05:30 PM
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I find nothing wrong with that, I think it's great. I need a car, because I have a 30 minute commute to work and need it for my family.
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Buhhhh! Someone cares if someone else is sweaty?

If someone shows up somewhere all red and winded you should be a little bit more impressed by their arrival than most others. Just like you could honor your buddy who had to ride a rail and transfer buses to meet you at some party.

And if somebody on a bike comes too and magically presents a live pet or a case of beer, or something like a cake where you wonder how they the hell they carried it with what bag you're looking at, then it's usually awesome.
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Also, I rode a few cool bikes as a kid and a few years ago, but I just got another bike together after a long time of just forgetting about them.

So for whatever this says, I have a decent 40k job in a city where it's not a lot. I afford a small apartment and have to budget carefully. I also drive a sweet E34 540 Sport. It's not all that cause It's really worth only 7-8k, but it is pretty clean heh.

Anyway I'm pretty much over having to pay for and maintain a vehicle. It can be important for dating and hauling people or stuff around. But I wouldn't miss it if I could ride everywhere for what I need and have whatever else delivered or moved with some help.

I forgot bike friendly mass transit totally. Whoever is talking about even a cheap car as a life benchmark I'll bet you is about 16 to 19 years old and from at least an upper-middle class, or wishes they were.

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And, and, the person who's comparing the trendy cycling consumer riding something trick and expensive to a vehicle owner is clearly trying to BS. Anyway, those kids aren't half as many as the rest of us who don't jerk to our own bike pics, but just ride. The rest of them probably aren't here either.

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Originally Posted by Gyeswho View Post
and your location plays a vital role in prices of insurance and car prices too, so keep that in mind.
Yes, you're right. I'd guess my car insurance is 10-15% higher than it would be if I lived outside the city.
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Yeah I agree ... old American vehicles, or any make really, will treat you well if you take care of them (i.e. regular oil changes, brake maintenance, not letting it go to rust). Like you said, there are so few points of failure, unlike most modern cars which, imo, may as well be disposable.
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