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muckymucky 05-26-09 09:37 PM

What will drilling 2 holes on a pair of bullhorns do?
 
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1710/1234d.png
(*just a random picture, not my bike~)

Got a time trial lever~ want to be minimalist and have the luxury of not having to feel the cable under the bar tape, thinking of drilling one hole near the horn, and one near the stem area to guide the brake cable through.

How bad will this be for the bars? (structurally~ ;D)

ianjk 05-26-09 10:09 PM

You can find some old bars that have this drilling.

http://www.fiataccompli.com/bike/pho...le_routing.JPG

http://www.raydobbins.com/ebay/bike-masi/Photo_06.jpg


I wouldn't do it myself. You need a somewhat large oval hole for the cable to pass through and cutting a tube/bar designed to be solid is almost always a bad idea.

elTwitcho 05-26-09 10:14 PM

By drilling a hole near the stem you'd be creating a weak point at the area of the bar that comes under greatest stress and is most likely to break. I'd sooner find a set of bars meant to accomodate the cable internally than do something like this, but that's just me

prawza 05-26-09 10:19 PM

some bullhorns have holes pre-drilled in them. profile airwing comes into mind?

tall&lanky 05-26-09 10:39 PM

I can't imagine a small hole causing a metal bar to fold under pressure. I bet it'd be fine.

PedallingATX 05-26-09 10:42 PM

i have the profile airwing and it's GREAT for this. The cable goes through the horns and then in a cutout on the back of the bars. Works great. Also, if you're looking for cheap, the Ben's Cycle Tranz-x horns have a indenture on the inside of the curve.

ianjk 05-26-09 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by tall&lanky (Post 8989754)
I can't imagine a small hole causing a metal bar to fold under pressure. I bet it'd be fine.

A scratch can cause a bar to fail... just some food for thought.

An oval hole for a cable is not "small".

Geordi Laforge 05-26-09 11:28 PM

cable under bar wrap is barely noticeable, if at all, when done correctly.

pulling cable and housing through holes in tubing is always a PITA.

dont bother.

Geordi Laforge 05-26-09 11:30 PM

...and, yes, it would be a bad idea to drill holes for a non-aero lever like your picture demonstrates. think about it.

muckymucky 05-26-09 11:46 PM

alright thanks for the help guys i think i know what to do! ;D

oneangrytoast 05-27-09 11:14 AM

cheers on getting a functional brake. :D

crushkilldstroy 05-27-09 10:39 PM

They would certainly make the bars lighter.

coppertop4646 05-27-09 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by ianjk (Post 8989896)
A scratch can cause a bar to fail... just some food for thought.

No.

eric716 05-28-09 06:07 AM

On aluminum bars, any flaw can one day make them fail. Aluminum doesn't fail slowly like steel, it seems fine and then it's in half.
Steel on the other hand doesn't depend entirely on it's shape for structure and I'm sure you can drill at will. I'd keep it a decent distance from the stem though...

ianjk 05-28-09 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by coppertop4646 (Post 8996382)
No.

yes.

JohnDThompson 05-28-09 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by tall&lanky (Post 8989754)
I can't imagine a small hole causing a metal bar to fold under pressure. I bet it'd be fine.

It's actually one of the most common failure modes for handlebars. That's why bar manufacturers started using grooves to route the cable.

Turbo Mini 05-28-09 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by coppertop4646 (Post 8996382)
No.


Originally Posted by ianjk (Post 8999104)
yes.

No.

beer slayer 05-28-09 11:35 PM

the shop that i worked at in the '80s did it.

the trick was to make a loop of cable housing from a non-aero lever and run it up, back to the bar plug that was drilled for the housing to run through. then out near the stem. We only did it to SLEAVED bars so tht they had extra metal to help prevent failure.

If I remember right only 1 failed! Would I do it today? Hell no.

dervish 05-28-09 11:53 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo Mini (Post 9002439)
No.

how big of a scratch are we talkin here....

muckymucky 05-29-09 01:10 AM

this thread has been interesting lol~

happytruck 05-29-09 02:28 AM

i certainly would not risk compromising stem/bar strength

bbattle 05-29-09 05:46 AM

Eddy Merckx used to drill out his bike components to shed weight; check out the handlebars on his bike he set the Hour Record on.

http://www.classicrendezvous.com/ima..._Hour-bike.jpg

LINK

Of course, he never rode that bike again.

LINK to useful info

Turbo Mini 05-29-09 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by dervish (Post 9003102)
how big of a scratch are we talkin here....

I don't know, because I'm not the one who said that a "scratch" could make bars fail. As far as I'm concerned a scratch is just that and there really aren't too many varying degrees of such. Until of course its deep, but then thats a gouge which I think is something totally different and depending on the severity of said gouge, could at some cause the bars to fail.

RE: the drill bars on the hour record bike..
It looks like they're only drilled where you would put your hands, which is bar far, not the highest stress area of the bar ie. either side of the stem..

just my .02

edit: I didn't click the link below the pic, but there is still a sleeve over the center of the bars... but still making my point somewhat less valid. my b

devilshaircut 05-29-09 02:27 PM

We drill holes in our mallet heads for polo? Lol.

seedubs1 05-29-09 02:40 PM

If I remember right, my old syntace stratos bars had holes in them for internal cable routing. Maybe check out a set of those, and see if you like them.


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