I'm trying to decide between a Sugino 75 or a Shimano DA 7610 BB to go with my Sugino 75 cranks. The Sugino's $10 less and cone/cup while the Shimano is cartridge. For mostly riding around in the city and possibly some longer (~50 mi.) rides, is one more practical than the other? Thanks.

Edit: Oh yeah, might as well throw my other question into this thread...A while ago I posted my tentative setup which included a Surly rear hub with a Dura Ace cog and was told they are incompatible. Well, I ended up going w/a Phil Wood rear hub (just couldn't resist the shiny metal...) and was wondering which cogs are compatible with it. Thanks again!

1.get the sugino bb if you've already got the sugino cranks. your chainline will thank you.

2.phil wood hubs need a 33.5x24 tpi lockring. if you can't get a phil ring, the EAI is a good substitute.

whoever told you that was an idiot. surly's require a 1.29"x24tpi lockring, which is the same thread pitch as the d-a lockring. i have a d-a lockring on my surly hub, which fits perfectly and has not given me any problems whatsoever. didn't your phil hub come with a lockring?

seconded

whoops, i'm the idiot :o i meant cog, not lockring. my bad. in my defense, it was like 2:30 in the morning when i typed that :p

get a phil wood lockring. maybe a bit pricey but you already spent the $$$ on the best hub, might as well give it the best lockring. dont they usually sell together??

if you're riding around in the city, and in not-so-nice conditions (rain, snow, etc), go with the cartridge bottom bracket. they're sealed well enough that you won't have to worry about **** getting inside for quite some time.

i'd rather have a paul lockring. wider = better. i hate having the damn lockring wrench slip off my DA lockring, and i'm pretty sure the phil one isn't any easier...

or i should just shut my trap and get the paul lockring wrench! hmm...maybe i'll order one of those for the shop....

yeah those wrenches are awesome, a little pricey but no more skinned knuckles.. or maybe thats just me.

i think they're DEFINITELY worth the price, even if it only gets used once every two years. it would save a ton of headaches, and get the job done right, and fast. i'm finding that out more and more every day: that if you use the right friggen tools for the job, it gets done faster and easier. also, usually, the better quality the tool (which usually translates to higher price), the faster and easier it is to do, so i would have no problem dropping $85 plus shipping for a lockring tool that would mean i could pull a cog in less than a minute, WITHOUT losing my knuckles or fingertips.

****in' a! that's gonna be my very next purchase for myself! ...after the wheelbuilding book...and the parts for my beater...damn, i just want to get a ****tonne (metrics rule god dammit) of tools!!

i have the paul hub w/ the paul lockring...that thing is f*** massive