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jsphillips93 06-30-09 04:46 PM

mash bike
 
I bought my first track frame with the intention of tricking on it, but that has long since passed...Any references for track frames with pretty fast geometry but that will still hold up in the streets? right now i'm on a 2005 or 2006 56cm raleigh rush hour...it's actually pretty fast so if i should stick with it just let me know...

oh and like the title says...really want it to just mash around town on...

zerosiah 06-30-09 05:35 PM

fastness is primarily dependent upon the bicyclist, not the bike

jsphillips93 06-30-09 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by zerosiah (Post 9197080)
fastness is primarily dependent upon the bicyclist, not the bike

thank you for the great insight. of course i know that but the geometry on frames plays into how fast a bicyclist can be on different bikes....for instance (an extreme example) a mtb is not as fast as a road bike.

LupinIII 06-30-09 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by jsphillips93 (Post 9197211)
thank you for the great insight. of course i know that but the geometry on frames plays into how fast a bicyclist can be on different bikes....for instance (an extreme example) a mtb is not as fast as a road bike.

okay, but fast how?

get a TT bike. that's the "fastest".


if you just want track bikes, here are some fast track bikes:

http://www.cervelo.com/bikes.aspx?bike=P3Track2009
http://www.pinarello.com/ita/montellopista_scheda.php
http://www.bikesale.com/look-596-track.aspx

that should get you started.

CharneK 06-30-09 06:09 PM

Stick with your Rush Hour. If you want if to feel faster get a lighter wheelset. Better hubs, lighter spokes and lighter rims, and either 23c or 25c tires. Rougher roads go for 25. Good roads go for 23. Maybe add a carbon fork too.

jsphillips93 06-30-09 06:22 PM

thanks CharneK. that's really the advice that I was looking for...same to you LupinIII, but I'm not looking for a tri-bike or something to put on the velodrome. any references for good wheelsets guys? i'm gonna want to go for the 25s because the roads in east austin are rough...probably working with 200 dollar budget max....

MIN 06-30-09 06:28 PM

geometry has nothing to do with your speed on the bike, only handling characteristics. the mtb example is off base bc they use lower gearing, 26" wheels and knobby, heavier tires.

Negative Force 06-30-09 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by MIN (Post 9197363)
geometry has nothing to do with your speed on the bike, only handling characteristics.


Silly and false.

exhibitx 06-30-09 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by MIN (Post 9197363)
geometry has nothing to do with your speed on the bike

what

no

Syscrush 06-30-09 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by jsphillips93 (Post 9197336)
thanks CharneK. that's really the advice that I was looking for...same to you LupinIII, but I'm not looking for a tri-bike or something to put on the velodrome. any references for good wheelsets guys? i'm gonna want to go for the 25s because the roads in east austin are rough...probably working with 200 dollar budget max....

Go for the 23's and play through the pain.

And I would think that you can forget about that 200 budget if you're looking for a high-perf wheelset.

PedallingATX 06-30-09 07:26 PM

OP- you will do fine on 23c tires in Austin. I ride all over Austin (East, West, South, North) on my 23c Gatorskins and have no problems. You be aight. BTW, ur bike is fine.

jsphillips93 06-30-09 08:38 PM

thanks PedallingATX. i feel confident hearing that from another austinite...what's your ride look like? maybe i'll see you around sometime...

adriano 07-05-09 12:32 PM

everyone knows pursuit geometry makes you so fast.

elTwitcho 07-05-09 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by exhibitx (Post 9197510)
what

no

kinda sorta. frame geometry will change your aerodynamics a good bit and the positioning of your saddle over the bottom bracket will change which leg muscles you use but things like wheelbase or head tube angle probably won't change much in terms of speed I wouldn't think

PedallingATX 07-05-09 01:27 PM

there are some pics of my bike in the thread "Sputnik where are you?" check it out. I usually do the moonlight ride and critical mass. I just ride a lot in general. PM me if you ever wanna ride.

LupinIII 07-05-09 01:50 PM

for 200 bucks stay with your raleigh

shapelike 07-05-09 02:24 PM

Honestly dude, it doesn't matter a whole lot. If you want to be faster work on your pedal stroke and ride more.

That said ... if I had a Rush Hour and wanted to throw money at it to make it faster I'd save up for a new wheelset ... for everyday riding (no tricks, but maybe **** roads sometimes) I'd go for: Mavic Open Pro rims, DT Swiss Competiton spokes, Formula small flange hubs. There, you just took a pound of rotational weight off your bike. I never skidded a lot when I road fixed so I could get away with "light" tires (compared to "skidding" tires) so I'd maybe buy some Michelin Lithions ... they're a good compromise between nice ride quality, flat resistance and price.

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iansmash 07-05-09 03:00 PM

generally a steep seat tube angle will be good for "mashing*"


I ****ing HATE that term...because it mostly stands for kids riding fixed gears recklessly through traffic and making it a nightmare to drive on main thoroughfares of cities

PedallingATX 07-05-09 03:30 PM

shapelike, do you have a link for Formula low flange hubs? I want some badly.

LupinIII 07-05-09 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by PedallingATX (Post 9222554)
shapelike, do you have a link for Formula low flange hubs? I want some badly.

I got some iro branded ones from the iro bargain basement. 20 bucks each. only have 32hole rears left, but have both 32 and 36 for the front. I think they spin pretty nicely, seem to be comparable in quality to any of the other budget sealed cartridge hubs out there.

shapelike 07-05-09 05:52 PM

When I was riding fixed a few years ago J&B Importers was the main distributor in the states that carried them. I'd ask your LBS about ordering from them or maybe try QBP as well. They're a other massive U.S. distributor. Maybe call EAI (Euro Asia Imports) and ask if they stock them now too.

jsphillips93 07-06-09 01:57 PM

thanks for all the responses yall...

@ pedallingatx...ill try to catch you at the next CM...cant do the cruise tomorrow night because my friends in the hospital and its just not the same w/o him...

to everyone else...thanks for all the responses...i actually ended up getting an '09 leader frame with h plus son rims and a truvativ crankset for 800 and was able to part out my raleigh for 500...so it came out to be a good deal.

as for "mashing"...im not gonna lie, i run red lights every now and then but its the kind where its midnight and there's no one out and we're still checking to make sure its clear...i dont ever bomb hills and stuff and then go run the light at the bottom...sorry if the term has a negative connotation on it but i'd rather say "mashing" instead of "going fast" or something else...

shapelike 07-06-09 05:41 PM

Saying you like to go out and ride hard stands on its own. You don't need to make it sound cool. Enjoy your new bike.


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