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Motobecane Track Team - thanks for the ideas

Old 12-15-09, 07:42 AM
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i got mine in the mail a couple days ago. here's what it looks like put together plus gr9's, mks clips, all city doubles, 18t surly cog, and a front brake. i also spent a few minutes removing the gaudy rim decals. sorry for the cell phone picture.

during the assembly process i noticed that the drivetrain was 1/8" rather than 3/32" as advertised. that wouldn't have bothered me that much except that it meant that i couldn't use my park sr-1 chainwhip (3/32" only) and had to wait to go to the lbs the next day. not the end of the world but still pretty irritating. it's also worth noting that my bike came with an extra unbranded 16t cog and lockring mounted on the non drive side in addition to the 15t dura ace cog and lockring on the other side.

once i finally got it out on the road, i was instantly impressed. this thing is fast! this is my first experience with a super light bike and my first experience with a real track bike (my other bike is a steel road conversion). comparatively it feels extremely quick and nimble. the aluminum frame and tight geo definitely make it a harsher ride compared to my old 4130 bike. but even so, i did a 20 mile ride yesterday with minimal discomfort. there's a significant amount of toe overlap on my 56cm with large clips. but that comes with the territory, i suppose.

the only real weak spot on this bike is the wheelset. the hubs are loud! it kind of sounds like an airplane taking off when i get going real fast. i haven't gotten around to taking the hubs apart and repacking the bearings yet but hopefully that will hold me over till santa brings me an open pro/formula set from wheel warehouse.

overall i'm very satisfied with my purchase. it's a great bike and a great value. just be prepared to ditch those wheels asap.

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Old 12-15-09, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by sharpsandflatts View Post
the only real weak spot on this bike is the wheelset. the hubs are loud! it kind of sounds like an airplane taking off when i get going real fast.
Hubs shouldn't sound like airplanes. You might have a bad bearing, but its also possible that what you are hearing is simply the road buzz being magnified by the deep rims and huge aluminum frame tubes. Deep rimmed wheels and oversize tubed aluminum frames are louder than shallow rims and skinny tubed frames. Think of it as a consequence of the increased stiffness.

Originally Posted by sharpsandflatts View Post
...till santa brings me an open pro/formula set from wheel warehouse.
Thats the wrong wheelset for that bike. Id rather use the stock wheels than OP/formulas.

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Old 12-15-09, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by mihlbach View Post
Hubs shouldn't sound like airplanes. You might have a bad bearing, but its also possible that what you are hearing is simply the road buzz being magnified by the deep rims and huge aluminum frame tubes. Deep rimmed wheels and oversize tubed aluminum frames are louder than shallow rims and skinny tubed frames. Think of it as a consequence of the increased stiffness.

+1 the wheels are fine The thing is like Riding a drum the Big ass hollow down tube acts like an amplifier. I have a 52 and The bottom of the Deda Track drops Hit the Downtube at full lock I messed with the spacers ect. I am thinking of getting some shallower drops
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Old 12-15-09, 03:55 PM
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yeah, the wheelset is not that bad. Mine pinged as it was braking in, but after that and I retensioned, it has been fine. The drops are a lot deeper than I had expected, I'm thinking about getting some bullhorns for mine.
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Old 12-16-09, 02:29 AM
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fwiw, my chainwhip with an 8/9 speed chain fits over my 1/8 chainring.
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Old 12-16-09, 02:46 AM
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You can easily convert a 3/32" chainwhip to 1/8". I've done it twice.

- Get a segment of 1/8" chain equivalent to those which you will replace. Maybe go longer on the "whip" part.
- Get 3 x 1/8" master links
- Take a photo of the current 3/32" chain whip for reference
- Use a chain breaker to break all of the old 3/32" chain pieces off of the tool.
- Use the chain breaker to make the 1/8" segments the same length of the short segment and maybe longer on the whip segment. Keep in mind that the inner links will join with the master links which are outer links.
- Re-attach using the master links.

It may sound difficult, but it's a simple job when you have the whip in your hands and analyze what needs to be done.
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Old 01-27-10, 02:46 AM
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anyone else have pictures of their buildups? I'm thinking of picking up one.
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Old 01-28-10, 12:20 PM
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Mines For sale On velospace

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Old 01-28-10, 03:00 PM
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why are you selling it?
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Old 01-28-10, 10:59 PM
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why are you selling it?
Too Many bikes.
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Old 01-28-10, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by carleton View Post
You can easily convert a 3/32" chainwhip to 1/8". I've done it twice.

- Get a segment of 1/8" chain equivalent to those which you will replace. Maybe go longer on the "whip" part.
- Get 3 x 1/8" master links
- Take a photo of the current 3/32" chain whip for reference
- Use a chain breaker to break all of the old 3/32" chain pieces off of the tool.
- Use the chain breaker to make the 1/8" segments the same length of the short segment and maybe longer on the whip segment. Keep in mind that the inner links will join with the master links which are outer links.
- Re-attach using the master links.

It may sound difficult, but it's a simple job when you have the whip in your hands and analyze what needs to be done.

I wouldn't waste money on master links as any chain you use on a chain whip is gonna break before too long. Just use the 1/8 chain itself with a chain breaker instead of getting extra master links.
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Old 01-28-10, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jhaber View Post
I wouldn't waste money on master links as any chain you use on a chain whip is gonna break before too long. Just use the 1/8 chain itself with a chain breaker instead of getting extra master links.
Wut? The master links are used to CONNECT the chain to the chain breaker tool.

1) If a chain and master links are designed to handle 3,000 lbs of force, I'm sure then can handle whatever force my (or your) arms can pull with.

2) I used the chainwhip I described above 5 days a week while changing gears at least 3 times a training session for 6 months last race season. Held up fine...using $1.50 worth of master links (3 x 0.50).
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Old 03-15-10, 12:08 AM
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hey mike. for the next crazy frame how about something like the fuji elite? or the newer ftp?
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Old 03-15-10, 01:18 AM
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thanks for the photo... been kinda wanting one of these!
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Old 03-16-10, 05:22 PM
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thanks for the photo... been kinda wanting one of these!
get it, they're great! I love mine!
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Old 03-16-10, 06:39 PM
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Holy 10" of saddle to bar drop batman.
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Old 03-16-10, 06:50 PM
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^Hey Jeffrey nice bike. Just one criticism though... $20 lock for a $800 bike?
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Old 03-17-10, 03:05 AM
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That looks like a fahgetaboutit... which is more than 20.
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It's an onguard mini tc, i have the same lock, lol its $20 bucks.
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I bought one of these in November. I like it but the 54 feels too small even though my three other bikes are all 54s. After 15 or 20 miles, my shoulders start to ache considerably.

Also, I'm almost totally unable to perform a proper skid stop unlike my other fixed bikes, so riding brakeless makes me nervous. I'm a complete noob at bike mechanics -- could it be becasue the cranks are smaller than I need?
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yeah, its the mini onguard. Maybe I should get the fahgetaboutit
I rarely ride in the drops, so the saddle to bar drop doesn't bug me really, maybe I'll flip the stem and get some road bars because the deda track drops are DEEP.
edit:@Relaxer: probably has to do with the gear ratio. Stock ratio is pretty steep, throw at 17/18t cog on and see if you can skip easier.
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Old 03-22-10, 08:15 AM
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hows the durability feel as far as street goes? im a clyde at 250lb so dont want to go with this if it cant handle it...
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Old 03-24-10, 05:35 AM
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anyone?
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I have a fuji track comp, and it is the best riding stiffest frame track bike i have ridden.
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Originally Posted by bleedingapple View Post
hows the durability feel as far as street goes? im a clyde at 250lb so dont want to go with this if it cant handle it...
I'm ~160 lbs and love my Motobecane Track. When I ride it on a track/loop, I never worry about the durability. However the last few weeks I've had to use it as a thru-town commuter, and I gotta say, its been fine but I really shudder whenever I hit a bump/pothole. These bikes are extremely light, almost bizarrely so, and if I weighed much more, I'd prob feel kind of nervous about it.
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