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Old 07-28-09, 02:52 AM
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impress me.

ok.

so the whole freestyle fixed gear trick thing has been going on for a few years. there are countless videos online, several full-length dvds, blogs, messageboards, trick-specific components, and all the accompanying fashion and posing that comes with any youth trend.

as someone that grew up skating, I can spot a decent trick. And I know the difference between something that is hard to do and something that people actually want to watch - I can play a mean game of jenga when I'm stoned and build up a tower of blocks as high as the ceiling, but who cares? I'm not about to start a blog and a youtube channel documenting my jenga skillz and set up a website that sells jenga-gloves with a colorway designed by shepard fairey. likewise, I like to pop a wheelie and ride backwards as much as the next guy, but I'm not about to pretend it's anything more than just having fun.

I have yet to be impressed by anything done on a fixed gear bike within the realm of tricks. BMX and trials, on the other hand, are both often utterly amazing.

Fixed-gear freestyle, thus far and in my opinion, is a total self-congratulatory snoozefest. People feel the need to document their "sessions" all over the internet as if something cool was happening. Perhaps I am wrong in my belief that this sport has no future and no potential...

so, show me what's impressive. change my opinion. let's see a video of something that can match skateboarding, bmx, or trials. maybe I've been watching the wrong videos.

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Old 07-28-09, 03:02 AM
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Not what you're looking for, but one ****ing rad trials video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z19zFlPah-o
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Old 07-28-09, 03:07 AM
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yeah that guy is sick. see, that's what im talking about.
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I have no videos to add because I agree with you. Also, "self-congratulatory snoozefest" is a great phrase.
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i agree as completely.

so does bikesnobnyc

https://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2009...-what-how.html
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Dude are you kidding? Check this **** out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c2_HyxKD20

...make sure you watch to the end for that sick dismount.
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That **** was sick. FG4EVA
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ok.

so the whole freestyle fixed gear trick thing has been going on for a few years. there are countless videos online, several full-length dvds, blogs, messageboards, trick-specific components, and all the accompanying fashion and posing that comes with any youth trend.

as someone that grew up skating, I can spot a decent trick. And I know the difference between something that is hard to do and something that people actually want to watch - I can play a mean game of jenga when I'm stoned and build up a tower of blocks as high as the ceiling, but who cares? I'm not about to start a blog and a youtube channel documenting my jenga skillz and set up a website that sells jenga-gloves with a colorway designed by shepard fairey. likewise, I like to pop a wheelie and ride backwards as much as the next guy, but I'm not about to pretend it's anything more than just having fun.

I have yet to be impressed by anything done on a fixed gear bike within the realm of tricks. BMX and trials, on the other hand, are both often utterly amazing.

Fixed-gear freestyle, thus far and in my opinion, is a total self-congratulatory snoozefest. People feel the need to document their "sessions" all over the internet as if something cool was happening. Perhaps I am wrong in my belief that this sport has no future and no potential...

so, show me what's impressive. change my opinion. let's see a video of something that can match skateboarding, bmx, or trials. maybe I've been watching the wrong videos.
As a lifelong BMX flatlander, I really don't have a problem with fixed gear riders trying tricks, but I just don't see the point. Fixed gear bikes, unless set up like artistic bikes, are HORRIBLE for trick riding - and even the artistic bikes are real difficult (and limited) to ride. The geometry is horrible and the welds/construction is not meant to take trick abuse. BUY A BMX BIKE. You would like it much more and you would be able to do a lot more.

I especially don't understand n00bies getting into fixed gears for trick riding alone. If you want to learn flatland, there are better choices out there.

BMX'ers are baffled and we spend a lot of time *facepalm* with all the crap FG riders and companies are doing to try and make these bikes trick worthy. Potts mod stems, headtube extenders, pegs, etc. - it's all very ridiculous when the BMX industry has tried and true technologies and geometry set-ups to make trick riding more efficient. Believe me, in the 80's and 90's we hurt ourselves immensely weeding out the crap.

As far as the tricks go... we were doing these same tricks when we were 12! Trackstands, ground tailwhips, wheelies, riding backwards, etc. were/are very basic, basic, basic BMX tricks for us kids BITD. However, get a group of FG riders and somebody does an endo or a wheelie, the whole crowd is, like, "WHOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAA!!!"

Everytime we hold a flatland session, FG riders seem to gather and do tricks near us - but never talk to us. Almost like they're trying to battle us (???), but we are just confused why anybody would want to trick ride a FG and not trade that in for a BMX bike. Sometimes we just mimick their tricks and get a giggle. Or we'll do a FG style trick and link it to an advanced flatland BMX trick for fun.

Like I said, it's whatever floats your rocket... but seriously, buy a BMX bike with flatland geometry, visit www.global-flat.com and get real trick riding. Doing tricks on a FG is like trying to ride a floor dolly like a skateboard. I guess you can do it, but you won't get very far. In that example, I would suggest you buy a skateboard.

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Old 07-28-09, 08:10 AM
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At least they are riding bikes.
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At least they are riding bikes.
Yeah, if you can call that riding.
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Yeah, if you can call that riding.
I do.
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Old 07-28-09, 08:29 AM
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they should at least be able to keep up with this guy on a road bike

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWOVR...eature=related
(crappy video, decent bike skillzzzzzzzz)
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Old 07-28-09, 08:42 AM
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I agree. FG tricks are LAME. I enjoy trackstanding and riding backwards, but i would never weelie for fear for snapping my CF fork and I would never buy a 650c wheel in order to barspin. And I would never ever dream of filming myself,expecting others to wanna watch it.

P.S.- It's hard to do a lot of ^^those^^ tricks when you don't have a brake! haha
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Old 07-28-09, 08:51 AM
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I'm not too impressed by the fixed tricks either, but check this out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU4b_...e=fvst#t=1m56s
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Old 07-28-09, 08:54 AM
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^ maybe not those tricks, but BMX (and now even some trials riders) are playing the brakeless game. they still have a freewheel, but still...

p.s. brakeless trials
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsDpLTwAMvc

p.p.s. for some sweet bar spinzzzzzzzzzz check out this euro chick @ 1:59
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiE1Qm7HSd8
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once a week:
someone posts asking "why do all you fixie kids do tricks? im so mad!"
someone posts a video of a bmx, or mountain bike, or something that is not fixed gear and goes "yeah you need to be on this lvl" (which usually is an impressive video, btw)
a bmx'er comes over and *****es about fixie kids, and for some reason wants them all to ride bmx?
everyone agrees and the anti 650c club joins in
but the tricks and videos never stop
its like being opposed to interracial marriage
get over it
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Old 07-28-09, 09:23 AM
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after seeing a guy break his back trying to do a 720 double tail whip back flip over a 30' gap in a pro BMX comp, it's gonna be pretty hard for someone riding a track frame to "impress me"
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I support bicycle enjoyment, so far as no one is harmed, go out there and have a great time. Does it really matter who thinks fixed tricks are less impressive than BMX tricks?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiE1Q...e=channel_page

if you can bear to sit through the dancing . . . stuff, at the beginning. . . THESE are decent fixed gear tricks I don't think you could pull off with a bmx bike (though I could be wrong)

obviously a little more in tune with the circus style performing (which I'm sorta kinda into)
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Last night I had a dream that I could do a trackstand, and two girls were so impressed they came up to me and made out with me a bit.
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I'm pretty sure FG tricking is just to make everyone look at your bike.
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roller tricks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yFv5Kbi4NY
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FG tricks are LAME.
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Yeah, fg's aren't nearly as good as bmx or trials bikes for tricks, but at least we don't look ridiculous trying to pedal our bikes down the street. Not really trying to burrrrrn or anything- just, fg's are practical for everyday use AND can do tricks.
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yeah, fg's aren't nearly as good as bmx or trials bikes for tricks, but at least we don't look ridiculous trying to pedal our bikes down the street. Not really trying to burrrrrn or anything- just, fg's are practical for everyday use and can do tricks.
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