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So it finally happened... (flew over bars)

Old 08-05-09, 10:12 PM
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Bent saddle rails, fixable?

I was cruising pretty fast along the bike route at Huntington Beach. The path was pretty clear and so why not speed a little? I did for a while and w/o checking the path a guy walks across the path to his friends on the other side and for some incredibly dumb reason I didn't shout at him or alert him in anyway. My body acted on its own and squeezed the front brake and off I went landing on my hands and knees and heard my bike tumbling behind me.

I'm a little scuffed around the knees but I was 100% fine and my gloves saved my hands. I rushed to check the condition of my bike. Frame, okay. Wheels, okay. Seat... *sigh*

I just bought my saddle (Selle San Marco Aspide Arrowhead) last week for $ 40. I know its only 40 but I'm still incredibly frustrated that I let this happen to myself. I love this saddle bc it's one of my first upgrades for my bike ('04 pista, stock) and it felt GREAT to sit on.

The upper right part of my trapezius still aches from the crash. I'm having seconds thoughts about my pista's frame only having a front brake. "Oh it won't happen to me! I know better!" I didn't know better and I paid for it. Two brakes ARE definitely better than one.

Is there any way to fix the rails? Probably not huh? Oh well, n00b mistake.
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Old 08-05-09, 10:22 PM
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Were you wearing a helmet if not please visit: https://www.bikeforums.net/singlespeed-fixed-gear/568066-ssfg-darwinian-nightmare.html
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Old 08-05-09, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by feetpower View Post
I'm having seconds thoughts about my pista's frame only having a front brake. "Oh it won't happen to me! I know better!" I didn't know better and I paid for it. Two brakes ARE definitely better than one.
If your reflexes caused you to brake improperly, a rear brake isn't really going to fix that, although I do like to run one just because there are some situations where they come in handy. Work on good braking technique so that you can automatically use the brake to bring the bike to a quick stop from a high speed without any serious issues.
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Old 08-05-09, 10:26 PM
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Of course I wore a helmet! Do you think I'm some lame hipster kid learning how to skid for the first time? I don't give a **** about skidding. I'm sorry if I'm coming across as aggressive but that was a stupid question that has nothing to do with my original question about repairing the rails. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by feetpower View Post
Of course I wore a helmet! Do you think I'm some lame hipster kid learning how to skid for the first time? I don't give a **** about skidding. I'm sorry if I'm coming across as aggressive but that was a stupid question that has nothing to do with my original question about repairing the rails. Thanks.
So you can't take a joke so I'll reply with one.
Just go really fast backwards and slam on your rear brake so you fall in the opposite manner hopefully having your bike land the opposite way bending the rails back to normal. Simple. D*ck.
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Old 08-05-09, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by feetpower View Post
Of course I wore a helmet! Do you think I'm some lame hipster kid learning how to skid for the first time? I don't give a **** about skidding. I'm sorry if I'm coming across as aggressive but that was a stupid question that has nothing to do with my original question about repairing the rails. Thanks.
wow. chill out.
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Old 08-05-09, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by feetpower View Post
Is there any way to fix the rails? Probably not huh? Oh well, n00b mistake.
What is the material of the rails, aluminum, carbon, steel? If steel, good chance you can bend it back. Aluminum, maybe. Carbon, not. At that price, I doubt the rails are titanium. You've got nothing to lose by trying, it'll either bend back OK or break.
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Sorry. Thank you for your expert advice. I will try the backwards thing.
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baby mama bike drama
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i think it's steel but how exactly can it be bent back? could a bike shop bend it?

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Originally Posted by feetpower View Post
i think it's steel but how exactly can it be bent back? could a bike shop bend it?
What I have done is mount it on the seatpost, and pry it back into shape with a large screwdriver between the bottom of the seat and the seatpost.
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Old 08-06-09, 12:49 AM
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lol lern2brake/avoid ****
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get a new saddle.
learn to brake (weight toward the rear).
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Is there a certain speed when leaning back will not work during front-braking?

I really hate it when people are in my way. they either:

1. Stay in the same place even when you alert them.
2. Are surprised and move more into your way.
3. Don't even look at all.

When I know I'm in a bicycle populated area (such as the beach) it's so obvious to walk along the sides as to not obstruct anyone and look left/right before you cross. I mean holy **** its a ****ing bicycle/skateboard route. NOT for people to walk in the middle of. Yes it's my fault for not having good avoidance techniques but if people weren't so oblivious, it wouldn't be so hard on cyclists.

Again, sorry for my hot-headedness. I'm still not over what happened. I ate **** for a complete stranger and ruined a perfectly fine seat.

okay okay rant over.

I've been trying to bend the seat back while its on the seat post but I can only bend it so far. I guess I'll get a new saddle.

Is there any thing out there that feels like the Aspide Arrowhead? For the guys that ride the Turbo seats and all those 80s designed seats, aren't you worried about your perineal region?
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get a new saddle.
learn to brake (weight toward the rear).
buy a bell.
dont speed on a path that people are wandering into.

what else do you want to hear?
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feetpower,

I wouldn't trust bending the saddle rails back. I know it sucks and all but I'd buy a new saddle.
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie View Post
What I have done is mount it on the seatpost, and pry it back into shape with a large screwdriver between the bottom of the seat and the seatpost.
That sounds like a good way to ruin the seatpost too.
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Originally Posted by feetpower View Post
I've been trying to bend the seat back while its on the seat post but I can only bend it so far. I guess I'll get a new saddle.
Correct.
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Originally Posted by feetpower View Post
Of course I wore a helmet! Do you think I'm some lame hipster kid learning how to skid for the first time? I don't give a **** about skidding. I'm sorry if I'm coming across as aggressive but that was a stupid question that has nothing to do with my original question about repairing the rails. Thanks.
stfu
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Originally Posted by rogwilco View Post
That sounds like a good way to ruin the seatpost too.
Well, I've personally had success on 3 different occasions doing this. The seatpost is normally much stronger than the seat rails, which is why the OP bent the seat rails but did not damage the seatpost when he wrecked. I'm assuming the OP's seatpost is aluminum and not carbon, which probably would have snapped when he wrecked. However, it's a moot point now, since the OP has been unable to make the repair and will now buy a new seat anyway.
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Were you wearing a helmet if not please visit: https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=568066
Give it a F'ing rest.
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Give it a F'ing rest.
Oops, sorry I thought you were being serious......
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Dude you can bend that back into shape; I went over the bars last week on my 29er and did the same thing. I fixed it on the road right then and it's been fine.

If you can't get it perfect using your hands, get a rag and a set of vice grips and see if you can make slight tweeks, using the rag to keep from marring up the rails.

Although this should go without saying, you'll need to take the saddle off the post to do this.
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I feel your pain sort of, I've had people walk on the bike path from behind trees while I'm heading down at 25 MPH. I've gotten so pissed I've seriously thought about cloths lining someone.

Just buy a new saddle. What kind of bars do you have and what kind of brake?
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Buy a new seat to put under your pants, fill your lungs with air to make the peds dance, and lean back, ,lean back, lean back.

Glad to hear you made it out OK. Just watch out for wackiness on the path because it WILL happen.
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