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robotphood 09-15-09 02:44 AM

If you want all your outs then shouldn't people that don't know how to skid/skip stop have rear brakes also then? Or all bikes in general? I have a front brake on my fixed gear but through practice have learned how to at least slow down fairly well with my legs alone well above 10mph. Of course it requires more distance to stop but I initially learned because I personally find skidding one of the many fun "tricks" you can do on a fixed gear bike. Eventually it became second nature and gave me a bit more control over my bike. I haven't heard of many front brakes failing but it's about being prepared right? Front brakes have enough stopping power but in some emergencies it seems like you don't have the time to modulate and prevent flying over the bars. I haven't run into a situation where that has happened but there has been a handful of times my rear wheel has lifted in an emergency stop. Wouldn't a rear brake be helpful here or am I wrong?

Flow 09-17-09 03:11 AM


Originally Posted by bonechilling (Post 9671078)

When asked immediately after the crash "What's the last thing you remember?" He said... (refer to sticker on car)

the_don 09-17-09 06:07 AM

Are people really so stupid that they need advice on how to brake????

Seriously??? You ride, you brake, you quickly figure out what works best.

But then again, I guess there are people who never ride bikes, and then they get a FG coz it's cool, then they only get a front brake coz that's cooler than 2. etc. etc....

Tomo_Ishi 09-17-09 07:51 AM


Are people really so stupid that they need advice on how to brake????

Seriously??? You ride, you brake, you quickly figure out what works best.
I agree. Scapes, gashes, bruises are awesome incentive to figure out those things quick.

databike 09-18-09 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by the_don (Post 9690702)
Are people really so stupid that they need advice on how to brake????

Seriously??? You ride, you brake, you quickly figure out what works best.

But then again, I guess there are people who never ride bikes, and then they get a FG coz it's cool, then they only get a front brake coz that's cooler than 2. etc. etc....


i've been riding my 6 speed for a year, went fixed for about a month. i confess i'm not that good with a fixed, but then again its only been a month... whats the point of a forum if i can't ask questions like tips for braking? or is it just for bike porn...
and from the discussions, i learned a lot, than just a simple "use your brakes" so i think it was a useful thread for me and a few others, maybe not you. if you're too cool to read a thread like this, you don't have to read it, simple as that.

eMXiMeR 09-18-09 07:02 PM

I ride with a front brake but use it as little as possible. When I need to come to a stop I usually just fight the pedals or try to skid-stop if I'm feeling like it. I also always keep a look out ahead to see when a street lights gunna change to yellow so I can get a feel for if I need to start slowing down or what not. I can see how people ride brakeless, but I would never do it for those many occasions that a front brake helps out a ton.

robotphood 09-18-09 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by eMXiMeR (Post 9701837)
I ride with a front brake but use it as little as possible. When I need to come to a stop I usually just fight the pedals or try to skid-stop if I'm feeling like it. I also always keep a look out ahead to see when a street lights gunna change to yellow so I can get a feel for if I need to start slowing down or what not. I can see how people ride brakeless, but I would never do it for those many occasions that a front brake helps out a ton.

Ditto. Skips and skids because they are just natural and fun. Front brake for emergencies, steep hills, or when I'm just lazy :D

feetpower 09-21-09 09:23 AM

skip-stopping is good enough for me. if situations are too sudden, you'll fly over the bars anyway even with a brake. the best protection is still good judgment. chances are the best thing to do if theres someone in your way is to find the best path around them. i find it easier to go around things than to try to emergency stop and eat **** and possibly cause harm to objects/people i am flying into/on top of.

dsh 09-21-09 10:22 AM

Don't you guys get tired faster doing all that resisting and skidding and stuff?

RubberDucks 09-21-09 10:31 AM

you wont fly over the bars unless your leaning forward over them and you have never used a front brake before...

Brig 09-21-09 12:06 PM

Couldn't have said it better myself. We should change this to the "why you should wear a helmet thread"



Originally Posted by kfm (Post 9674840)
It's funny how so many people on this thread have reacted to riding brakeless... I guarantee 90% of them ride like they are drunk on a regular basis. I've ridden brakeless for years. Every now & then i come across a rider who is obviously got something to prove & rides like an @ss, but typically the brakeless riders i encounter in NYC & Brooklyn, S.F., Chicago, etc. are hands down more skilled than their braked counterparts. It's not an argument about brakes or no brakes, it's a conversation about careless vs. focused riding. The guy that started this thread was obviously on the side of careless.

My whole thinking is, if you are going to take the risk of learning how to ride a fixed gear bike without the use of brakes, don't be a j@ck@ss... take it slow & tune into the flow of a city. And for fuxx sake, always have a way out of a given situation (don't ride directly behind vehicles).

bring it.


Roy G. Biv 09-21-09 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by dsh (Post 9714619)
Don't you guys get tired faster doing all that resisting and skidding and stuff?

Isn't that kinda the point of riding fixed?
One of the benefits being getting your legs in better shape.

Why not just get a freewheel bike and always pedal if you don't want to ever have to resist or skid?
(Not talking **** I actually have a single speed bike built up solely for when I don't feel like resisting and skidding)

Roy G. Biv 09-21-09 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by Brig (Post 9715264)
We should change this to the "why you should wear a helmet thread"

I agree that not wearing a helmet is a way more stupid than riding brakeless if you have the skills.

dsh 09-21-09 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by Roy G. Biv (Post 9715271)
Isn't that kinda the point of riding fixed?
One of the benefits being getting your legs in better shape.

Why not just get a freewheel bike and always pedal if you don't want to ever have to resist or skid?
(Not talking **** I actually have a single speed bike built up solely for when I don't feel like resisting and skidding)

Obviously you know there is a really big difference in the feel of riding fixed vs always pedaling on a freewheel.

And I'm not talking about some big zen bike connection thing. I'm talking about how the momentum of the bike carries your feet through the dead spots and aides in spinning.
Fixed gear bikes are a lot easier to pedal than single speeds, which is one of the reasons I like riding them.

Roy G. Biv 09-21-09 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by dsh (Post 9715302)

And I'm not talking about some big zen bike connection thing. I'm talking about how the momentum of the bike carries your feet through the dead spots and aides in spinning.
Fixed gear bikes are a lot easier to pedal than single speeds, which is one of the reasons I like riding them.

This is true. I think I just really enjoy skidding/skipping.

robotphood 09-21-09 12:30 PM

I wouldn't say easier. Maybe for short flat distances it's easier because it carries your feet. But there are plenty of times coasting would be easier. Downhill, peak of sprinting, fast cornering, and even just resting the legs on a long trek.

dsh 09-21-09 01:13 PM

Yeah sorry I meant "the act of pedaling is easier". Those things you listed are "not pedaling".

When you are pedaling, pedaling is easier on fixed than anything else.

Obviously "not pedaling" is easier than "pedaling".

robotphood 09-21-09 01:50 PM

Ah you're right. I guess I just associate coasting to freewheels like pedaling is to fixed. IMO, if you never rode a fixed before, there's no reason to always pedal :)

ianjk 09-21-09 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by feetpower (Post 9714184)
skip-stopping is good enough for me. if situations are too sudden, you'll fly over the bars anyway even with a brake. the best protection is still good judgment. chances are the best thing to do if theres someone in your way is to find the best path around them. i find it easier to go around things than to try to emergency stop and eat **** and possibly cause harm to objects/people i am flying into/on top of.


LMAO.

Is stopping that hard for people?

dsh 09-21-09 02:23 PM

Honestly I don't know anyone over the age of about 12 who has flown over the handlebars from braking.

I think my brother did it once when he was like 10.

twelsch42 09-21-09 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by feetpower (Post 9714184)
skip-stopping is good enough for me. if situations are too sudden, you'll fly over the bars anyway even with a brake. the best protection is still good judgment. chances are the best thing to do if theres someone in your way is to find the best path around them. i find it easier to go around things than to try to emergency stop and eat **** and possibly cause harm to objects/people i am flying into/on top of.

People are unpredictable, children are even more so. This is why everyone should know how to come to an emergency stop. How you slow down is your business. But unpredictable things happen when you're sharing public spaces. Knowing how to stop effectivly means that mashing your front break wont send you over the bars. You'll be thanking yourself when some kid looks back on a trail and swerves left instead of right. Rear ending a car and you might be picking glass out of your shoulders. "Your kid should have been better supervised" isn't going to save you from a lawsuit from johnny's parents. Especially without means to come to an emergency stop.

Not knowing how to use your brakes effectively is not a good reason to ride brake-less.

I'm not telling you what to do. I've had separate situations where both my front brake and helmet saved from catastrophically larger incidents / injury. And I still wear a helmet, and I still use a front brake. However safe you think you're riding life is unpredictable, that's just my experience.


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