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Old 09-14-09, 11:21 PM
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fixed gear blues

Well my chain derailed again with some bad results. As I was coming to a stop I decided to skip stop instead of use my brake. I was too lazy to move my hands but not lazy enough to skip stop
As I complete the stop my chain comes off and wraps itself around my cog and I just a crunching sound

I quickly jump off the bike and put it on the sidewalk. I discover the drive-side drop out(conversion) is bent out of shape but it's steel so I fixed that roadside. Then I find out the chain tightened the hub's cones so it won't turn! Finally, I inspect the chain and find out that a link is slightly twisted, which renders my chain useless.

AHHH this bike is my townie/back up bike since I cracked my road bike's rim. I feel so naked now without a functioning bike. I guess I didn't have enough chain tension.
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what is the purpose of this post?
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So a cone wrench and a 12 dollar chain are out of the question because..?
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Originally Posted by jakerock View Post
what is the purpose of this post?

Watch out, the hippie zen guy wants to kick your ass for starting this thread now.
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sometimes you just have to take crap off your chest
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sometimes you just have to take crap off your chest
This thread is now about a scat fetish? That's just wrong, bro. Totally wrong.
 
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This thread is now about a scat fetish? That's just wrong, bro. Totally wrong.
Don't crap on chests, bro.
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You can't say you ride until a hipster chick takes a dump on your chest.
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Originally Posted by jakerock View Post
what is the purpose of this post?
Wow, get outta here.



Threads where people talk about how they ****ed their **** up are always welcome.
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im just curious, is there a chance the chain torqued the cone too much and damaged my hub internally?
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thread title would make a great song
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Originally Posted by jakerock View Post
what is the purpose of this post?
To illustrate the superiority of bikes w/brakes?
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To illustrate the superiority of bikes w/breaks?
Fixed.

If you're going to post anything about the stopping mechanism on a bike, you must spell it right. It's "breaks" not "brakes". This is BF.
 
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Fixed.

If you're going to post anything about the stopping mechanism on a bike, you must spell it right. It's "breaks" not "brakes". This is BF.
Oh man, I've been doing it wrong this whole time.
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So a cone wrench and a 12 dollar chain are out of the question because..?
Because the OP needs to fix his chainline before dropping any more money on the bike.
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Old 09-16-09, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by hairnet View Post
Well my chain derailed again with some bad results. As I was coming to a stop I decided to skip stop instead of use my brake. I was too lazy to move my hands but not lazy enough to
As I complete the stop my chain comes off and wraps itself around my cog and I just a crunching sound

I quickly jump off the bike and put it on the sidewalk. I discover the drive-side drop out(conversion) is bent out of shape but it's steel so I fixed that roadside. Then I find out the chain tightened the hub's cones so it won't turn! Finally, I inspect the chain and find out that a link is slightly twisted, which renders my chain useless.

AHHH this bike is my townie/back up bike since I cracked my road bike's rim. I feel so naked now without a functioning bike. I guess I didn't have enough chain tension.
What did you think was going to happen when you used a bike and its components for something it was clearly not intended/designed for?
A fixed gear hub and cog are for use on the track, slowly stopping at the end of the race by either using the front brake or slowly adding reverse pressure to the crank, sure some of them will use the "skip stop" or "skid" but thats what? maybe a few times per race? unlike the street where you will be doing these things basically from the moment you leave your home. Not downing anyone who rides fixed, hell! I rode fixed for a long while too, just got tired of replacing parts so often that I couldn't eat cause I had to buy parts! **** that! I went single speed (and geared) and never looked back. Ocasionlly I'll jump on a fixed gear and go for a ride, but I find that I really don't enjoy it and it doesn't "feel" right...for me.
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Originally Posted by ilikebikes View Post
A fixed gear hub and cog are for use on the track, slowly stopping at the end of the race by either using the front brake or slowly adding reverse pressure to the crank, sure some of them will use the "skip stop" or "skid" but thats what? maybe a few times per race? unlike the street where you will be doing these things basically from the moment you leave your home.
1) Brakes, front or otherwise are not allowed on the track.
2) Brakes are allowed, even encouraged on the road. If you have a brake (or two) on your fixed gear bike, there is absolutely no need to skid your rear tire to stop. Tires will last just as long as they would on any other bike used on the road.
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Originally Posted by ilikebikes View Post
sure some of them will use the "skip stop" or "skid" but thats what? maybe a few times per race?
No it's never. If you start laying down rubber at the track you'll be off the track very quickly
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson View Post
1) Brakes, front or otherwise are not allowed on the track.
2) Brakes are allowed, even encouraged on the road. If you have a brake (or two) on your fixed gear bike, there is absolutely no need to skid your rear tire to stop. Tires will last just as long as they would on any other bike used on the road.
OK, I'll admit I need to do a little more research on the rules of the track, but that doesn't change the fact that track bike and their components will indeed break down faster when used on the streets the way most FG riders use them, and it also doesn't change the fact that tires on a FG will NOT last as long as they do on any other bike if your skidding/skid stopping (as the OP admitted doing even though he had a brake) I ride my SS all day long and my brakes have never skid while coming to a stop, and my tires are almost as new as the day I bought the bike.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson View Post
Because the OP needs to fix his chainline before dropping any more money on the bike.
I've actually dropped my chain a couple times when skipping hard, and I've got a pretty good chainline. I think the culprit is just that I was slamming my rear wheel down too hard with a 1/8" chain on a 3/32" cog. Can't figure out what else it would be. I've skip stopped before and since with no ill effects, so maybe it was just bad luck. Sometimes things just happen.

Oh, and about internal hub threads being damaged, you could always open it up and check, but it sounds like if it just tightened up it shouldn't be a problem. I'd be really worrying if it tightened way up and then loosened really fast.
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On the OP's FG it sounds like a tension issue. Once the chain goes off, the cog spins and if they interact, the physics of it all can rend the back of the bike to sh^t. Make sure the chain CANNOT come off inadvertently with bouncing/slapping/skipping if you're going to run FG. Makes it tight, more grindy, wears quicker, but it'll stay on.
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I checked my chainline and it is good. I was curious about the hub because it is a cartridge bearing hub and I wasn't sure what could happen, but I opened it and adjusted the cones. The hub turns just fine.

The problem really was chain tension. I was fixing everything at a Co-op and several people came by at ask what's up. I showed them how tight I normally keep my chain and they were shocked at how loose I kept it. Now I have it on and it's really tight so this shouldn't happen again.

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Once the chain goes off, the cog spins and if they interact, the physics of it all can rend the back of the bike to sh^t.
The drop out was bent and the chain left nasty chewing marks on my crank arm, lock ring, and dust cap.
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he's not naked, so clearly he's not partying hard enough
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I ride my chain pretty loose, and I have never had this happen.

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