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dooodstevenn 09-29-09 07:21 PM

Velocity B43...pros/cons
 
just wondering if anyone has any experience with them since they are fairly new (i think) i know their heavy, but will they withstand a beating from the road? any other comments about the rims? all i have ever heard was they are heavy, and some ppl think they look "stupid" which could all be found online with no experience with them. i'm asking if anyone actually has them on their bike right now and how they are doing.

AEO 09-29-09 07:43 PM

pros: tougher than 30mm deep-V
cons: boat anchor

there's not much more to it.

what exactly do you intend to use them for? and how much do you weigh?
I can't really think of a situation where you'll need these since 29'er rims are tougher and not as heavy.

tall&lanky 09-29-09 08:10 PM

they look badass. supposed 'aero' benefits?

never ridden em. haha

ADSR 09-29-09 08:35 PM

You can't use a brake with them.

wearyourtruth 09-29-09 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by dooodstevenn (Post 9768699)
i know their heavy, but will they withstand a beating from the road?

i don't have to have ridden them to tell you they will hold up to anything a road (at least any road i've been on) would throw at them. velocity is well known for making very study rims. notice the triple walls on the cross-section. i have beat the **** out of my deep-v's for years with no problems and these are probably even stronger. they are made for tricks and bike polo, so arguably they are made to withstand being cracked with a mallet or ball and taking flights of stairs and endless wheelies without trouble.

if you told me to take these and ride them off a 2 ft drop i wouldn't hesitate (at least about the rim), and i doubt you are going to find anything more brutal than that on the road.

renton20 09-29-09 08:37 PM

I dunno, I think they look bad ass but I can't think of any possible advantage they have. tricks- go for a chucker, standard vs or even fusions are plenty tough for any street use- potholes etc, aero seems kinda silly because they are so heavy. I would love to be proven wrong as I think these look cool, but what are the pros to these rims?

Blacksail 09-29-09 08:41 PM

They're deeper, for faster skidz!!!

jim-bob 09-29-09 08:43 PM

More surface area for sikk fixie graphix

TonyPepperoni 09-29-09 08:45 PM

I own a set and run them brakeless on my fixed gear. I like them a lot compared to the regular deep-v's or the wiennman wheels. Just make sure you get a presta valve longer than 53cm. Also, on my Tommaso that I run them on, the tires are very close to the frame and it almost seemed like they flexed a little when I took sharp corners and the tires rubbed a bit...other than that, they RULE. They look insane on a bike too. Scoop it up like ice cream!

goldfa09 09-29-09 11:53 PM

i have a red front one for sale holla

mikeee 09-30-09 12:11 AM

anyone know where to buy a set for cheap?? down to pick up a set YEE.

erichsia 09-30-09 12:34 AM

combat H+Dad.

Nuggetross 09-30-09 01:02 AM

are there any good looking alternatives to b43 and h+son in terms of depth? maybe something between those and deep-v that won't break the bank and looks "hip"?

Triple8Sol 09-30-09 01:21 AM

Dodici also makes a 42mm deep aero wheel.

dooodstevenn 09-30-09 01:23 AM


Originally Posted by mikeee (Post 9770065)
anyone know where to buy a set for cheap?? down to pick up a set YEE.

lol ebay had a sale on b43's for 260, thats where i picked them up, its wheel and sprocket's ebay account. im pretty sure there are some still left on sale though

randing 09-30-09 01:42 AM

Eighthinch Julian's are 42mm/$200 shipped.

murdaki11 09-30-09 01:49 AM

Eighthinch Julian's reviewed in there

lockedcog.com/bikes/eighthinch-full-review/

LupinIII 09-30-09 02:45 AM

b43's aren't deep enough, too shallow

http://store.nexternal.com/shared/St...rce=googlebase

dooodstevenn 09-30-09 03:01 AM


Originally Posted by LupinIII (Post 9770253)
b43's aren't deep enough, too shallow

http://store.nexternal.com/shared/St...rce=googlebase


ohh nice, if i had the money

Front: http://store.nexternal.com/shared/St...unt2=809562325


Rear

http://store.nexternal.com/shared/St...unt2=809562325 :love:

Yo! 09-30-09 08:13 AM

I have a B43 for a drive wheel on one of my bikes and it's very solid, if not a little trendy.

I run it 3x and it is definitely pretty heavy; probably on par w an aerospoke.

From a wheelbuilder's perspective, I didn't like how Velocity didn't take the time to clean out all of the drilling shavings; there was quite a bit in there and I had to spend time with my small needle nose pliers to get it all out, otherwise your risk flatting off it. I also didn't like how you can hear the remnant metal rolling around in there as the wheel turns.

Mine also came from the factory with a smooshed section on the non drive side rim. Could have been from shipping etc, who knows. I don't run it w a brake and I was able to straighten it out, but still, it sucks to get a new wheel with a bend.

queerpunk 09-30-09 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by renton20 (Post 9769167)
I dunno, I think they look bad ass but I can't think of any possible advantage they have. tricks- go for a chucker, standard vs or even fusions are plenty tough for any street use- potholes etc, aero seems kinda silly because they are so heavy. I would love to be proven wrong as I think these look cool, but what are the pros to these rims?

Only until very recently, aero has always meant heavy. The benefits of light weight and the benefits of aero are different, and useful in different situations. Light weight wheels spin up faster. Aerodynamic wheels hold speed better, and when your speed is constant (and high), more weight doesn't matter. Light wheels may be beneficial where acceleration is more important than top speed, or where weight matters more than top speed (hill top finishes, perhaps?). But take a look at the pro peloton - aero wheels everywhere. In the racing world there has been a pretty regular weight-v-aero conversation ever since the introduction of disc wheels, and then carbon rims and trispoke-type wheels, and many many many people conclude that aero trumps weight.

However, this doesn't really necessarily apply to the B43, which I think is part of a recent "deepest V" competition that was started when HPlusSon released their rims.

the_don 09-30-09 09:03 AM

They are probably stronger than a set of Mavic Deemax DH rims! they weigh more too!

erichsia 09-30-09 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by queerpunk (Post 9771404)
However, this doesn't really necessarily apply to the B43, which I think is part of a recent "deepest V" competition that was started when HPlusSon released their rims.

lol, someone needs to come out with a rim named this. maybe the "v" could end in razor sharpness.

AidanJ 09-30-09 10:45 AM

triple walled to take a beating.

renton20 09-30-09 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by queerpunk (Post 9771404)
Only until very recently, aero has always meant heavy. The benefits of light weight and the benefits of aero are different, and useful in different situations. Light weight wheels spin up faster. Aerodynamic wheels hold speed better, and when your speed is constant (and high), more weight doesn't matter. Light wheels may be beneficial where acceleration is more important than top speed, or where weight matters more than top speed (hill top finishes, perhaps?). But take a look at the pro peloton - aero wheels everywhere. In the racing world there has been a pretty regular weight-v-aero conversation ever since the introduction of disc wheels, and then carbon rims and trispoke-type wheels, and many many many people conclude that aero trumps weight.

However, this doesn't really necessarily apply to the B43, which I think is part of a recent "deepest V" competition that was started when HPlusSon released their rims.

To my knowledge you are exactly right about aero trumping weight. What I should have said is that I am assuming that most of the people who use these rims will be riding mostly in the city with a lot of stop and go riding. For this application an aero rim is not nearly as useful as a light one. On the other hand, it does look cool


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