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The worst part of having no job?

Old 10-19-09, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by velocycling View Post
I got ride a car...

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Old 10-19-09, 11:15 AM
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I used to think saving for retirement was cool, but then I realized that I'll be too old to enjoy not working. I'd rather not work now and ride my bike all day and work when I'm old.
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I would think not being able to eat, pay the rent and pay bills would be right on top of the list of "the worst part of not having a job."
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Originally Posted by LoRoK View Post
I used to think saving for retirement was cool, but then I realized that I'll be too old to enjoy not working. I'd rather not work now and ride my bike all day and work when I'm old.
Riiiiiiiiiiight, lets see how well you work when your body doesn't do the things you want it to do and does the things you don't want it to. Youth is indeed wasted on the young!
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Originally Posted by ilikebikes View Post
Riiiiiiiiiiight, lets see how well you work when your body doesn't do the things you want it to do and does the things you don't want it to. Youth is indeed wasted on the young!
Work doesn't have to be with your hands, if you orchestrate well, you can depend on your mind.

Also not having a job does not neccessarily mean not being albe to eat or have a place to live. There are lots of ways to live minus money. I could send you some interesting articles and whatnot if interested.
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Old 10-19-09, 01:04 PM
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When it comes to old age, you can't depend on anything really. That's the whole reason that saving for retirement is important. Senior moments, dementia, Alzheimer's, any litany of physical diseases with huge bills.

The only good job you can use in your old(old) age is teaching, and best scenario of that is being a professor with tenure at a college or university, but you are going to need a PhD for that. I guess you could work at walmart, but think of how depressing that would be.
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Old 10-19-09, 01:51 PM
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I guess you could work at walmart, but think of how soul crushing that would be.
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Old 10-19-09, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by riot2003 View Post
Work doesn't have to be with your hands, if you orchestrate well, you can depend on your mind.

Also not having a job does not neccessarily mean not being albe to eat or have a place to live. There are lots of ways to live minus money. I could send you some interesting articles and whatnot if interested.
Please do, I'm very interested.
BTW, don't depend on your mind, that can sometimes fail you in old age too.
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Health is the most important. And that sadly, diminishes greatly with age. Didn't really grasp how much getting old sucks until I became a practicing intern at the health clinic at school. Day in and day out it's old people with a variety of health problems. The saddest ones have the simplest problems that we (youngins) take for granted every day. Makes me happy about being able to just ride my bike!
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If you can afford it, nothing wrong with being unemployed for a few months. It's probably good for you.

I was laid off a while back, and between unemployment, selling on Amazon and occasional temp work, my bills were covered. Had plenty of time to ride, read, play music, hang out. I mean, we didn't take any island vacations, had to be kind of frugal, but I had a really freakin great spring and summer this year.

I mean, if I had kidshousecar to think about that might be different, but if you can take the time, take it!
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Old 10-19-09, 11:29 PM
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i have a job and i can't afford either of the bikes these idiots are whining about...
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Old 10-20-09, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by cc700 View Post
i have a job and i can't afford either of the bikes these idiots are whining about...

its about priorities.

plenty of cyclists i know would like nicer bikes but always complain they'll never be able to afford the $2000 bike.

yet they go to the hipster coffee hangout everyday @ $4.39 a latte.

$4.39 x 7days = $30.73/wk
x 30 = $122.92/month
x 12 = $1475.04/yr
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Old 10-20-09, 01:31 AM
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The problem about a $2000 bike is you're worried about it every time you take it everywhere. Hell, I'm worried about locking my $600 bike most of the time
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Old 10-20-09, 01:47 AM
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how about this. something worse than not having a job.


not being able to get a job. :-(
(i'm 15...)
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Old 10-20-09, 02:34 AM
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The worst part of having no job, unequivocally, is not having medical insurance. Especially when you're into activities with a higher-than-average chance of injury.
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Old 10-20-09, 07:56 AM
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The worst part of having no job, unequivocally, is not having medical insurance. Especially when you're into activities with a higher-than-average chance of injury.
Amen! Between Mountain Biking, Riding Fixed, and Running the S**T (kayaking) I'm just waiting for an accident. But, I just proposed to my girlfriend who happens to be a doctor....she told me to turn down a job offer because I would have to work weekend which would cut into our kayaking....nice.
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The worst part of having no job, unequivocally, is not having medical insurance. Especially when you're into activities with a higher-than-average chance of injury.
Anyone who has gone a period of time and gotten tooth problems or a serious case of the flu knows this is a serious setback and usually results in the problem being ignored and enduring great discomfort/pain/suffering/etc. Not to mention those who endure more serious medical conditions while uninsured.

Sigh. national healthcare? Not the place for that discussion lol.
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Life without money.

If you want to talk about this in detail, please PM me. Here are some links that might be of interest on the topic. Warning: possible spiritual and socialist themes within.

Some links:
Shane Claiborne http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Claiborne
the simple way http://www.thesimpleway.org/
jpusa http://www.jpusa.org/
Life without Money
http://www.zenzibar.com/Articles/moneyless.htm
men.style.com/details/features/landing?id=content_9817
http://www.livingwithoutmoney.tv/
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Thanks man, going to read all of that.
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Old 10-20-09, 12:38 PM
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The worst part of having no job, unequivocally, is not having medical insurance. Especially when you're into activities with a higher-than-average chance of injury.
Yeah, +1 to that. Sure it sucks not being able to buy fancy bike parts, but the lack of health care is #1.

I've got to get a benefited job soon...I could get a crap job to buy more bike parts but that probably would not even cover the amount my parents are paying for my health insurance since I feel bad having them pay for it now that I have graduated (they are self employed and have to buy private insurance plans so its not like I stop being covered now that I am not a student...so long as they keep paying out the roof for my plan)
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I have no idea what portland is like
Downtown Portland, and across the Willamette River in North East, East, and South East Portland, the roads have been overrun by hipsters on fixies. Most of them know little if anything about track bikes, and ride them because they are cool. Typically these bikes are old mass-market bike boom 10-speeds that have been spraypainted, had the brakes removed, and been converted to a single speed by welding up a freewheel (or some other shady backyard method). Therefore these bikes are now "fast" but by no means safe, and accidents happen all the time.

This has led to a ridiculous run-up in the price of used bicycles. 1970s Peugeots that a few years ago were worth $10 are now suddenly worth $100 in exactly the same condition. (If there was a way I could short sell this trend I would... there should be an ETF for hipster bikes.) Anyway, the hipsters typically move away after realizing that:

a) there are no jobs in Portland for people with art/history/literature degrees;
b) there are no jobs here at all;
c) it rains all the time; and
d) mom stopped sending checks

The problem is, California, the Midwest, etc. are continually cranking out hipsters who want to move to Portland... sigh.

edit: here is a followup to the first article

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Originally Posted by thermador View Post
Downtown Portland, and across the Willamette River in North East, East, and South East Portland, the roads have been overrun by hipsters on fixies . Most of them know little if anything about track bikes, and ride them because they are cool. Typically these bikes are old mass-market bike boom 10-speeds that have been spraypainted, had the brakes removed, and been converted to a single speed by welding up a freewheel (or some other shady backyard method). Therefore these bikes are now "fast" but by no means safe, and accidents happen all the time.

This has led to a ridiculous run-up in the price of used bicycles. 1970s Peugeots that a few years ago were worth $10 are now suddenly worth $100 in exactly the same condition. (If there was a way I could short sell this trend I would... there should be an ETF for hipster bikes.) Anyway, the hipsters typically move away after realizing that:

a) there are no jobs in Portland for people with art/history/literature degrees;
b) there are no jobs here at all;
c) it rains all the time; and
d) mom stopped sending checks

The problem is, California, the Midwest, etc. are continually cranking out hipsters who want to move to Portland... sigh.
Ha! Sounds on point from my observations of a recent trip to Portland to visit my cousins.
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Had my wages cut 20% for 6 months, then laid off (11 weeks now). 5 kids -- 3 at home, 2 in college, mortgage, car insurance, working half time at a low-wage job; take-home pay (with unemployment) down 55%. No health insurance, kid had a CT scan at the ER, out $4K. Not having fun. Did get to ride the bike a little more at first, but now the weather has turned and it gets dark pretty early.
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No wonder people hustle and participate in the underground economy during these tough economic times
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Yeah I think I'm gonna get into the coke game to get me one of the new MASH bikes.

That's a sound idea eh? hhahaha

Whoever posted those articles, thanks. I'm reading them right now.
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