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Originally Posted by adriano
(Post 9968148)
njs sets a standard for strength but also standardizes frame material, weight, spoke count, and even geometry for safety but mainly for equality in racing. njs frames are certainly made with care and control to maintain this safety and equality, but the emphasis of certification is on preventing a racer from gaining an advantage in the highly lucrative league it regulates. an njs certification of a frame ensures that it will perform and was made just like any other njs frame, not that it performs or is made better or worse than any other frame.
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Seriously. Kind of ironic since it's probably the most info adriano has ever offered up in a single post.
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NJS = standardized approved components, not NECESSARILY in quality
That means NO Toshi doubles, NO black 75's cranks The Vivalo that was/had been NJS approved was not necessarily quality frames. Most racers considered them "disposable." |
tgscordv6, you are foolish. those frames are not disposable, but effectively a thousand dollar bill with top tube dents redeemable with capri wearers with left shoulder problems. carry on.
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NJS parts are of high quality and similar performance/weight/strength to one another. This really isn't very confusing.
I agree with what someone else said: if you are going to Italy, why buy a BK? Get an old track frame that is more unique/prestigious. You could probably find some old Bianchi, Ciocc, Pinarello, Coppi, etc frames there if you look. Just ask around. |
Originally Posted by adriano
(Post 9968769)
tgscordv6, you are foolish. those frames are not disposable, but effectively a thousand dollar bill with top tube dents redeemable with capri wearers with left shoulder problems. carry on.
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Originally Posted by deathhare
(Post 9958524)
How so?
You think $735+shipping for a mediocre, tig welded, "street" track frame with ****ty paint and no custom options is a good deal? :twitchy: |
Originally Posted by Yo!
(Post 9969459)
Just let it go man....let it go
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2474/...65955ee3_b.jpg |
nice frame. too bad about the build.
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Originally Posted by psirue
(Post 9969947)
nice frame. too bad about the build.
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Originally Posted by Halcyon Days
(Post 9969516)
Kook trying to make it in the bike industry as a johnny come lately importer/ direct to you retailer by constantly hating on the Bareknuckle. Same ol' tiresome ***** being sung by a different bunghole :roflmao2:
I'm not "trying to make it in the bike industry". I'm a college professor. And if I were "trying to make it in the bike industry", I probably wouldn't do it by making a profit of $20 on something that costs $1100 to the customer.http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif As for hating on the BK. I am definitely not. Its a great frame. Just not worth what it costs IMHO. |
Originally Posted by adriano
(Post 9970529)
as for hating on njs, they are great frames but not worth what they cost.
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Originally Posted by Halcyon Days
(Post 9969516)
Kook trying to make it in the bike industry as a johnny come lately importer/ direct to you retailer by constantly hating on the Bareknuckle. Same ol' tiresome ***** being sung by a different bunghole :roflmao2:
2. He's allowing for greater customization than YJ (doing things such as removing the P.O.S. logo which YJ said was impossible) 3. He's giving a damn about customers and triple checking measurements between the builder and buyer. |
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