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rwing6 11-30-09 12:45 PM

skid spots on a SS
 
are skid spots as important on a single speed as they area fixed? right now im running a 48/18 setup and wanted to change to a 48/16 which only has one skid spot. but since im not really skidding will this effect my tires very much?

dbgray21 11-30-09 12:50 PM

considering you can't 'skid' on a ss i'd say it doesn't really matter. you can lock up the rear wheel with the rear brake (you should have one on a single speed) but thats kinda counter productive. just use your front brake and for your sake id recommend never coming back to this thread again.

HandsomeRyan 11-30-09 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dbgray21 (Post 10091007)
just use your front brake and for your sake id recommend never coming back to this thread again.

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zacked 11-30-09 01:08 PM

To actually answer the question, no the gear ratio does not matter, because the pedal rotation is not fixed to the tire rotation. I do notice on my polo bike that certain spots wear down more, but I'm not sure why. Perhaps the tire tends to drag longer on spots that are already worn down.

dbgray21 11-30-09 01:20 PM

handsomeryan, what part of laurel are you in? i graduated from LHS, is laurel mall still the hood?

lz4005 11-30-09 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by zacked (Post 10091101)
I do notice on my polo bike that certain spots wear down more, but I'm not sure why. .

There's probably a spot on your rim that the brake pads grab better than the rest of the rim. Could be from a dent or something.

rwing6 11-30-09 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by dbgray21 (Post 10091007)
considering you can't 'skid' on a ss i'd say it doesn't really matter. you can lock up the rear wheel with the rear brake (you should have one on a single speed) but thats kinda counter productive. just use your front brake and for your sake id recommend never coming back to this thread again.

your an *******, im just trying to learn

rwing6 11-30-09 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by zacked (Post 10091101)
To actually answer the question, no the gear ratio does not matter, because the pedal rotation is not fixed to the tire rotation. I do notice on my polo bike that certain spots wear down more, but I'm not sure why. Perhaps the tire tends to drag longer on spots that are already worn down.

thanks for an actual answer

ADSR 11-30-09 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by rwing6 (Post 10091778)
You're an *******. I'm just trying to learn.

Fixed.

teedoff087 11-30-09 03:53 PM

ur n ashole. dnt fix my speling!

dbgray21 11-30-09 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by rwing6 (Post 10091778)
your an *******, im just trying to learn

look kid, i was just answering your question. sorry it wasn't answered to your satisfaction. and if you think i'm an *******, you're in for a rude awakening. welcome to BFSSFG!

Scrodzilla 11-30-09 04:37 PM

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dbgray21 11-30-09 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 10092014)

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TRaffic Jammer 11-30-09 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by dbgray21 (Post 10091007)
considering you can't 'skid' on a ss i'd say it doesn't really matter. you can lock up the rear wheel with the rear brake

Skid = tire sliding across pavement. Yes, you can skid on a non FG SS using the brake, and depending on the situation, hardly counter productive.

Scrodzilla 11-30-09 04:51 PM

hahahaha! Pleadin' da fif!

dbgray21 11-30-09 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer (Post 10092044)
Skid = tire sliding across pavement. Yes, you can skid on a non FG SS using the brake, and depending on the situation, hardly counter productive.

i was just simply stating the front brake will be way better than locking up the rear wheel. and i've yet to come across the situation where i need to lock up the rear brake. i prefer to stop in the shortest distance possible. in what situations are you talking about? im curious. (no sarcasm)

TRaffic Jammer 11-30-09 05:12 PM

Hello, my name is Traffic Jammer and I'm an ******* too.


You were also stating:

Originally Posted by dbgray21 (Post 10091007)
considering you can't 'skid' on a ss i'd say it doesn't really matter.

This is wrong. A skid is a skid regardless of how it is actuated.

Locking up the back wheel to toss it out/scrub speed to crave around a car bumper in traffic (sometimes stopping is simply not an option) unlock when the back is at the correct angle and attack with mucho gusto. Bad for the wheel but dagnabit fun as hell in heavy traffic. The look of horror from people in cars around you is a bonus. Racing down a spiral parking garage access ramp is a great opportunity to see just how good you are on the back wheel. Sometimes you just have to drift the corner, moto style (inside foot hovering just off the ground) depending on how much speed you're carryin'. Skids, not just for stopping. The front brake is great indeed, but I prefer both front and back in unison with varying degrees of 'on' depending on conditions. Never touch the front brake in the ice and snow = fall down go boom I find I have more control over everything on a SS in traffic than on a FG, might be why I'm generally faster, because I can draft the cars and what not alot more safely than on a FG , feathering the rear brake to control speed.


Originally Posted by dbgray21 (Post 10092072)
i've yet to come across the situation where i need to lock up the rear brake.

Seriously? You're kidding right?

Big "scene" in the 703 is there?

mondaycurse 11-30-09 05:33 PM

You'll want to switch to courtesyforums.net if dbgray's answer was too mean.

ADSR 11-30-09 05:37 PM

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TRaffic Jammer 11-30-09 05:39 PM

Oh no you don't!!!

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rwing6 11-30-09 05:43 PM

another question-
my bike has vertical dropouts, and the chain is about perfect with the 18t in back, will the 16t be that much smaller that it would effect the chain size that much and have it be to lose?

TRaffic Jammer 11-30-09 05:49 PM

It will be smaller obviously. If the tension and wheel position are killer right now, look for a half link. This will shorten your chain ever so slightly. Concentric BB's or hubs work too if you have too much money, but apply the KISS principle and you generally can't go wrong. When in doubt ask your trusted wrench, if you don't have one .... find one....and bring beer.

rwing6 11-30-09 05:56 PM

will do, thanks

dbgray21 11-30-09 06:10 PM

i don't know what you mean by 'scene', but im pretty sure there isn't one in my part of virginia. i just use my bike to go to work and back. but for me, brake pad cartridges are way cheaper than my tires. but i see what you are saying though...

thirdgenbird 11-30-09 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer (Post 10092311)
Concentric BB's or hubs work too if you have too much money, but apply the KISS principle and you generally can't go wrong.

i believe the word you are looking for is eccentric. concentric is when two objects share an axis (a normal hub/bb) and eccentrics are not for people with too much money. they are for people that want safe and proper chain tension. there is a reason why tandems use eccentric bottom brackets. chainrings are not perfect and chains stretch...

if your just running a single speed get a chain tensioner. they are cheap, easy, care free, and let you change sprockets at will.


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