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new lugged steel track frames?

Old 01-11-10, 11:19 AM
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new lugged steel track frames?

Just wondering what was out there for new lugged steel track frames. I'm aware of Alien and I like their look, but I want something with the option for both front and rear brakes. I'd like to know all my options before I do something potentially silly like removing all the extraneous garbage off my Centurion LeMans RS (which has been collecting dust ever since my fixie deathtrap came to town. I just can't bring myself to put my new wheels, cranks, etc. on that piece of garbage frame). I like the price on EighthInch's Scrambler frames, but lugs are so pretty...
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Old 01-11-10, 11:27 AM
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this:

https://www.wabicycles.com/special_bike_spec_red.html

more expensive than the alien but it has nicer tubing and the option for rear brakes. it's also available as a complete.
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Old 01-11-10, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by sharpsandflatts View Post
this:

https://www.wabicycles.com/special_bike_spec_red.html

more expensive than the alien but it has nicer tubing and the option for rear brakes. it's also available as a complete.
It's not a track frame, but it's pretty damn nice. I have the Classic.
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Old 01-11-10, 11:32 AM
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That Wabi sure is pretty in red.
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Old 01-11-10, 11:36 AM
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https://www.traitorcycles.com/Bikes_Luggernaut.cfm not a true track frame, but it sure is purty.
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Old 01-11-10, 12:28 PM
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i don't think this guy really wants a true track bike. if he did, he wouldn't care about having a rear brake option.
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Old 01-11-10, 12:41 PM
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go ahead and donate that lemans to me. I've been riding one as a fixed conversion for a while now, definitely not a garbage frame. I forget what steel the main tubes are made of but the forks on mine are Tange #2 and ring very nicely.

If you want a really nice lugged steel frame (although in my opinion, you already have one), why not order one from waterford or fastboy or the myriad other frame builders of the world?
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Old 01-11-10, 01:21 PM
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Check out the Bob Jackson Vigorelli or Alley Cat. They're both BEAUTIFUL lugged steel frames, made by a traditional English builder, and not outrageously expensive.
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Originally Posted by chi-james View Post
go ahead and donate that lemans to me.
No way, man. I think there was a syntax error on my part. I've been riding a piece of garbage deathtrap fixie I built courtesy of the dump. It's some french crap, Unic-Sport if I remember correctly. The Centurion is another road bike I've had for a while, but I haven't used it at all since I built the fixie. I know it's a great frame, that's why I want to explore my options before I convert it. I also just ordered a new wheelset, cranks, etc. and it seems kind of backwards to put them on the garbage Unic-Sport boat-anchor-of-a-frame when I have this really nice LeMans frame.

Originally Posted by sharpsandflatts View Post
i don't think this guy really wants a true track bike.
Exactly. I'll never have this thing at an actual track. I'm just looking for a dedicated lugged steel fixed gear frame that will give me the option of a rear brake should I want to use my single speed cassette.

That Wabi is amazing, but I like the price and usability of the Luggernaut. Having the option for a rear rack is nice.

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Old 01-11-10, 03:05 PM
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Supposedly this is also available as a frameset only for about $600 >>>> https://www.masibikes.com/fixed/speciale-fixed-ultimate/
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masi is like 2 years too late on the gold components look. And the still haven't relised a headset, specers, and stem should all be the same color
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Originally Posted by sharpsandflatts View Post
i don't think this guy really wants a true track bike. if he did, he wouldn't care about having a rear brake option.
Which makes his post all the more ridiculous.
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Kilo TT Deluxe
https://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_S...ls&ProdID=1759
I'm thinking about getting one soon.
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Kilo TT Deluxe
https://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_S...ls&ProdID=1759
I'm thinking about getting one soon.
looks like you either didn't read the description of the frame or this thread.
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Old 01-11-10, 05:55 PM
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new lugged cro-mo frame with fairly relaxed geometry, track drop outs & very inexpensive.
https://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_S...ls&ProdID=1298
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Originally Posted by bigvegan View Post
Check out the Bob Jackson Vigorelli or Alley Cat. They're both BEAUTIFUL lugged steel frames, made by a traditional English builder, and not outrageously expensive.
+1billion

This is
hardcore porn.
https://www.worldclasscycles.com/jack...head_track.htm


If that was not great sex for you, you need to get yourself checked.
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Dude that porn is so good they musta used photoshop. Honeys just ain't that sweet in real life.
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie View Post
Supposedly this is also available as a frameset only for about $600 >>>> https://www.masibikes.com/fixed/speciale-fixed-ultimate/
Never liked the finish on Masis. Became a Masi dealer once back in the 70's .. received 10 bikes and sent them all back. Paint was crap! Maybe they've gotten better since then ... would HOPE so!

Check out the 2010 Colnago Super:
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Originally Posted by Onegun View Post
Not available as frame only. Too bad, looks nice. I hate the solid disc chainring.
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Originally Posted by iTripped View Post
Dude that porn is so good they musta used photoshop. Honeys just ain't that sweet in real life.
Ahhh, you have not acquired adequate knowledge of those that came before, grasshopper. You have much to learn, but do not fret ... you are young.

It's not a track bike, but they did make `em. Take a gander at a 1972 Mondia Special.
https://peterbrueggeman.com/cr/mondia.htm

His "magnifier" is a little out of focus, but you get the idea. And they looked even better in real life!
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie View Post
Not available as frame only. Too bad, looks nice. I hate the solid disc chainring.
Me too, but I guess it would be a matter of taste. To me the idea is "lean and mean", and the solid ring just mucks that up. Nice bike otherwise, though.
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Nice Colnago but I'm not a fan of the straight fork.
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Originally Posted by chi-james View Post
If you want a really nice lugged steel frame (although in my opinion, you already have one), why not order one from waterford or fastboy or the myriad other frame builders of the world?
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Originally Posted by bigvegan View Post
Check out the Bob Jackson Vigorelli or Alley Cat. They're both BEAUTIFUL lugged steel frames, made by a traditional English builder, and not outrageously expensive.
I sure hope the quality of the Bob Jacksons have improved since the mid 1970's, when they were absolute junk. I bought one from Bikecology, and when I received it, the rear of the frame was totally misaligned, because the left seat stay had been bent (damaged) prior to brazing, and they just slapped it together anyway. The left seat stay was about 1/2 inch lower than the right one at its connection to the seat tube. But stuff happens for a reason. I sent it back and paid $50 more for a Ron Cooper, which is one of the finest framesets I've ever seen. So, in hindsight I'm glad the Jackson was crap, otherwise I would never have gotten the Cooper.

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Originally Posted by Onegun View Post
Ahhh, you have not acquired adequate knowledge of those that came before, grasshopper. You have much to learn, but do not fret ... you are young.

It's not a track bike, but they did make `em. Take a gander at a 1972 Mondia Special.
https://peterbrueggeman.com/cr/mondia.htm

His "magnifier" is a little out of focus, but you get the idea. And they looked even better in real life!
That made me throw up a little bit. It was like looking at pictures of your mom.

Your porn is not mah porn. Let's keep it that way.
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