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chowmeen 01-17-10 01:59 PM

What's wrong with my wheel?
 
My cousin bought a Bianchi Pista the other day. When I spin the rear wheel with my hand, the wheel seems to keep spinning for quite a while. However, when I spin the rear wheel of my own bike, it moves for a second and totally stops.

Is it my hub? Chain tension?

Leukybear 01-17-10 02:06 PM

I would check chain tension first.... too tight.

roadfix 01-17-10 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by chowmeen (Post 10281568)
Chain tension?

Well, how is your chain tension compared to his? Tight tension will no doubt add more resistance to your drivetrain.

ncohen 01-17-10 02:08 PM

Simple, your chain is tighter than his

chowmeen 01-17-10 02:08 PM

I've tried changing the tension by adding just one halflink, and it gives way too much slack. Since I have vertical dropouts, thats basically the most I can do. Is there another way to add just a little slack?

Leukybear 01-17-10 02:11 PM

Find the "magic gear" ratio or your bike... it might cost ya.. but it's gonna provide a much nicer ride in the long run and your chains are going to last longer too.

thirdgenbird 01-17-10 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by chowmeen (Post 10281598)
I've tried changing the tension by adding just one halflink, and it gives way too much slack. Since I have vertical dropouts, thats basically the most I can do. Is there another way to add just a little slack?

eccentric:
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...d/DSC00749.jpg

chowmeen 01-17-10 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by thirdgenbird (Post 10281635)

That's a nice hub, but I don't have money for a new hub :/ .

mrvile 01-17-10 02:29 PM

Well then you better have money for new cogs/chainrings...

thirdgenbird 01-17-10 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by chowmeen (Post 10281649)
That's a nice hub, but I don't have money for a new hub :/ .

if you are dead set on using that frame, i would save up. if your wheel stops almost immediately the chain has got to be pretty tight.

i thought long and hard about my decision and decided to go this route. i can now run any gear ratio i want, and any frame i want (i have 3 total)

a semi compact aluminum
an all chrome reynolds 853 steel frame
and a vintage steel yakota in great shape.

i can also buy whatever frame suits my fancy as welll

chowmeen 01-17-10 02:34 PM

Ahh. It seems the only way to go with this is saving up money. Thanks for the help, guys.

thirdgenbird 01-17-10 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by chowmeen (Post 10281683)
Ahh. It seems the only way to go with this is saving up money. Thanks for the help, guys.

what is your frame? are you partial of it? you could always find a cheap frame at a thrift shop or craigslist and swap your parts over.

roadfix 01-17-10 02:55 PM

Run a round file through the dropouts. That will slacken the chain by a hair.

Build your own 01-17-10 02:58 PM

There's also the option of filing the axlethread and dropout.See Sheldon's article on this.

chowmeen 01-18-10 01:03 AM

Wow, great solution! I'll get right on filing. I can see how that makes sense. I want to keep my beloved frame forever and ever. I'll never get a new one !

Brian 01-18-10 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by thirdgenbird (Post 10281635)
eccentric:

Eccentric:
http://photo.net/photo/pcd0795/fount...ntric-50.3.jpg

pyze-guy 01-18-10 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by roadfix (Post 10281761)
Run a round file through the dropouts. That will slacken the chain by a hair.

You can also switch to a quick release setup, and cut off the threaded part off the axle the qr runs though. I did this for a while on a fg with vertical dropouts and had no problems. Quoted from Sheldon Brown

"I used a more drastic solution: on my Bianchi Osprey. I cut the rear axle short so that it didsn't protrude past the surfaces of the locknuts. Thus, only the quick-release skewer went through the dropouts. Since the skewer is quite a bit thinner than the actual axle, this gives me considerably more adjustment room.

If the skewer is properly tightened, the axle is held in place by the friction of the locknuts being pressed against the inside of the dropouts. If this were not the case, horizontal dropouts would not be usable, since the forward pull on the chain creates a larger force against the axle than supporting the rider's weight does."

Another cause could be the pressure on your bearings could be too tight.

letsgetsandy 01-18-10 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by pyze-guy (Post 10285740)
You can also switch to a quick release setup, and cut off the threaded part off the axle the qr runs though. I did this for a while on a fg with vertical dropouts and had no problems. Quoted from Sheldon Brown

"I used a more drastic solution: on my Bianchi Osprey. I cut the rear axle short so that it didsn't protrude past the surfaces of the locknuts. Thus, only the quick-release skewer went through the dropouts. Since the skewer is quite a bit thinner than the actual axle, this gives me considerably more adjustment room.

If the skewer is properly tightened, the axle is held in place by the friction of the locknuts being pressed against the inside of the dropouts. If this were not the case, horizontal dropouts would not be usable, since the forward pull on the chain creates a larger force against the axle than supporting the rider's weight does."

Another cause could be the pressure on your bearings could be too tight.

That seems like it would work but it was set up by someone that knew bikes inside and out. i would not recomend this to someone that is newish to bikes to get all gung ho on something that has the potential to be pretty dangerous if not done properly. same with the filling of dropouts.

LupinIII 01-18-10 02:36 PM

if the chain is so tight that the wheel stops immediately, i doubt the adding a half link will make it too slack. slacker than perfect, but most people run their chains too tight

it's part of the constraint you're putting yourself into by running a fixed gear with goddam vertical dropouts.


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