American Classic.
 

anyone have anything to say about the brand? i'm looking at the hubs, and they're incredibly light.

ac
 

the lock ring and axle caps are crap.

but, you can build a light wheelset, even with the 32's.

I think they're for jock, support the troops, Oakley blade wearing track racers.

haahaha

Estados Unidos
 

I think you meant Phil Wood, White Industries or Zipp.

i sow one instance of a hub flange failure on a radial laced road wheelset. despite the post above, i would be more inclined to look at a white industries hub.

?
 

which post?

it sounded as if you were making a sarcastic comment about phil, white, and zipp equipment (due to price)

Made in America
 

negative.

good man.

and yes, i do have a white ind hub and an oakley watch and glasses

Those too but the name American Classic denotes all sorts of terrible things.
I wouldnt run them if I got some free.

Would you run a Communist Classic? Cuz you obviously are one.

I'm a Communist Classic?
Cool :)

what is in a name...
 

maybe for you.

I'm sorry, what exactly is funny, or as you seem to imply--not cool--about supporting the troops?

I guess since I'm riding a fixed gear in a combat zone whilst killing babies and voting for Bush and McCain that I'm automatically not cool enough to be around here.

Had to break out the sock puppet huh?
Well, I didnt say anything is not cool about supporting the troops but while we're on the topic....**** the troops and the people who support them.

OP - Run! Get away from this forum as fast as you can!

Today I saw a bike with a rear zipp disc wheel secured to a rack on a bus.
Either he was going to a race at the track, or he's a dirty ******** ******* who doesn't deserve the zipp.

Support the troops when they shoot their commanding officers.

Why don't we have ribbons for people in every other dangerous job? I support the underwater welders, personally.

To keep this on topic: American Classic hubs are expensive.

don't hate/expensive hubs
 

being deserving, has nothing to do with it.

they are really somewhere in the middle, expense wise.

Expensive=

Zipp,Royce,Phil,Profile,Level,HED,Goldtec,Chub,Campagnolo.

I'm guessing you had a bad experience with a soldier from Ft. Campbell. I'm not in the mood to argue with you. One day, when you're a contributing adult in this society you'll realize how much of an idiot you are being right now.

Dhare, were you beat up a lot by jocks in high school? If the word "America" bothers you so much that it causes emotional fits, then I pity you for living where you do. And I pity your students, if they have to listen to this stuff in your classes. There are much more effective ways of voicing your concerns about America and Americans. I would probably agree with you on a lot of stuff, but I have less of an emotional problem about it, clearly.

Moving on....you are correct, the name American Classic is stupid, but it has nothing to do with troops or other American evils. If AC were truly an American classic (like Ford or Schwinn) then the name wouldn't be American Classic. There are a lot of dumb names, like Kenda Qwick, Dura Ace, Nikon Coolpix, and iPod. But thats not a good reason not to buy them.

That said, AC stuff is silly light, and I've heard lots about durability issues, not just with track hubs. Personally, if my goal were light weight, I would just run a Novatec hub in the rear (which is also light with its hollow axle) and use a light Novatec or Formula road hub built specifically for radial lacing with bolt-on skewer up front.

Am I to infer from this that you think American troops are evil? I hope not, as that would be a gross generalization and inaccurate representation of American society. I happen to be a Vietnam vet, and although I feel that this was a very bad war that should not have been fought, I do not see why the draftee participants should be villified. When I returned from 'Nam I had insults hurled at me by self-righteous activists and called names like "baby killer", even though I had never killed any babies and probably never even killed any legitimate adult enemy. Right now American troops and military resources are assisting in the Haitian quake disaster relief as well as in other areas around the world. I'd hardly characterize that as evil.

Dude, you are reading waaaaaaaay too far into what I was saying. You also responded before I got my edits in. Troops aren't evil obviously, and I didn't intend to say that. That doesn't mean that one should support their actions. All I was trying to do was point out that a reasonable mature adult (unlike Dhare, apparently) should be able to emotionally differentiate their political beliefs, however radical, from something as silly as a brand-name word association. We are talking about hubs, remember.