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remember this bike? (Bilenky)

Old 02-04-10, 03:34 PM
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remember this bike? (Bilenky)



the guy who runs hetchins.org totally REAMED it. i mean damn, it was a "tribute" not a replica.

https://www.hetchins.org/bogus-05.htm

"If Bilenky meant this as a tribute to Hetchins, it falls short of the marque. They have juxtaposed unrelated elements and the result is a farrago which Hetchins would never have produced, certainly not together on one frame. The design is further marred by inaccuracies and errors of detail."
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I'd hit that, incoherent or no.
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you should read CWMD (the owner of that bike) reaction to that review:
https://cyclingwmd.blogspot.com/2009/...persue-us.html
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"...On a genuine Hellenic-stayed bike, the seat stays (whether curved or straight) run parallel to the down tube; not on the Bilenky frame. ... Secondly, unless there is some distortion of the jpeg involved, the top tube also appears to be bowed downwards on the Bilenky frame. ...Thirdly, look closely at the top foto and note the rear tire clearance. You could fit four fingers into that gap. Why would anybody incorporate a curved seat tube, and then set the bike up with such a long wheelbase? The point of the curved seat tube is to get a short wheelbase by moving the rear wheel closer to the bottom bracket shell than would be possible with a straight seat tube. The result in this case is amateurish: superfluous curvature in defiance of design concept...."



DAMN.


Bilenky got served. It was a little harsh, but once you look at the Hetchins bikes compared to the Bilenky, the points are pretty valid.

I'd go for the Hetchins.

Or maybe, if I wanted something REAL pretty, I'd go for Columbine Cycle Works - https://www.columbinecycle.com/bicycles.php.
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Originally Posted by bigvegan
Bilenky got served. It was a little harsh, but once you look at the Hetchins bikes compared to the Bilenky, the points are pretty valid.
yeah the points were valid... but seriously. there's a difference between "i appreciate the sentiment, but this is how you could have done it better" and "okay, here is why what you just spent a lot of time on is a piece of ****"

luckily this is just a guy running a fan site and not the maker of Hetchins himself.
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Originally Posted by wearyourtruth
yeah the points were valid... but seriously. there's a difference between "i appreciate the sentiment, but this is how you could have done it better" and "okay, here is why what you just spent a lot of time on is a piece of ****".
Are you seriously expecting a cyclist on the internet to behave like a normal and courteous human being, and not like a sociopathic Rain Man?

You must be new here.



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Originally Posted by bigvegan
Are you seriously expecting a cyclist on the internet to behave like a normal and courteous human being, and not like a sociopathic Rain Man?

You must be new here.



Only a ******bag would say that
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Originally Posted by bigvegan
Bilenky got served. It was a little harsh, but once you look at the Hetchins bikes compared to the Bilenky, the points are pretty valid. I'd go for the Hetchins.
**** that. what about the word "tribute" do you and the guy that runs that site not understand? None of those critique points are valid because it's not supposed to be a Hetchins bike. It doesn't matter if you put the tribute side-by-side with a Hetchins and can point out all the differences; tribute's are not carbon copies of an original, tribute's show appreciation for something by emulating stylistic elements the subject is known for.

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Originally Posted by erichsia
**** that. what about the word "tribute" do you and the guy that runs that site not understand? None of those critique points are valid because it's not supposed to be a Hetchins bike. It doesn't matter if you put the tribute side-by-side with a Hetchins and can point out all the differences; tribute's are not carbon copies of an original, tribute's show appreciation for something by emulating stylistic elements the subject is known for.
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/dancing...7603154992936/

What are tires on that thing?
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Originally Posted by bigvegan
"...superfluous curvature in defiance of design concept...."


Is it not IRONIC that such a statement was made by somebody who collects Hetchins bikes?
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Originally Posted by erichsia
tribute's are not carbon copies of an original
True. Looks like steel to me.
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Originally Posted by WoundedKnee
almost positive they are Vittoria Pro Teams... which i don't think are made anymore, but still able to be found with some searching.

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Its just a Bike.
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I think it is funny that he was harsher on that bike than the forgeries passed off as actual Hechins.
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Bilenky repaired and repainted my '87 Fuso. They did a great job. Plus, they make these cool cargo bikes that look to be perfect for hauling kegs or pizza around.

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Originally Posted by Brian
True. Looks like steel to me.
actually tribute's are crabon copies of the original, but that's beside the point.
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Originally Posted by operator
Only a ******bag would say that
Well played operator.
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Originally Posted by bbattle
Bilenky repaired and repainted my '87 Fuso. They did a great job. Plus, they make these cool cargo bikes that look to be perfect for hauling kegs or pizza around.

There's a Pizza Fusion here... I would love that job
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