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Originally Posted by mattxxx
(Post 10368257)
haha, id like to see someone pushing that in sf. although i suppose it would be quite a fun downhill gearing.
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Originally Posted by mattxxx
(Post 10367979)
you're ratio's kinda high for a beginner i suppose but not so much that you shouldnt be able to lock it up unless your tiny. are you putting all your weight over the front wheel, balls to stem?
Your gear ratio is fine. The best advice is to just keep practicing. You'll eventually get it. You have to unweight the rear wheel....not by much, and just for a split second to initiate the skid. If you are able to lift your rear wheel off the ground while riding (sort of like bunnyhopping the rear wheel a tiny bit), then you can easily learn to skidstop. Putting your balls to the stem is not the way to do it if your intension is to stop. |
+1 for above, you can lean a lot further forward than you think
I learned to skid using 48/16, go out when the roads are wet, or get the hosepipe out :P, I found the wet tarmac helps you to learn what to do better |
Originally Posted by mihlbach
(Post 10368874)
Thats not going to help you stop.
Your gear ratio is fine. The best advice is to just keep practicing. You'll eventually get it. You have to unweight the rear wheel....not by much, and just for a split second to initiate the skid. If you are able to lift your rear wheel off the ground while riding (sort of like bunnyhopping the rear wheel a tiny bit), then you can easily learn to skidstop. Putting your balls to the stem is not the way to do it if your intension is to stop. |
He means put your weight to the front to take the weight off the back wheel.
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Originally Posted by wedoboop
(Post 10369532)
what do you mean by unweight the rear wwheel?
Once the skid is initiated, the friction coefficient decreases, so it is easier to maintain the skid once your weight falls back onto the rear wheel. In a skip stop you do this repeatedly in cycles....unweight-shortskid-unweight-skid-unweight-skid-----etc. Its very easy learn to do this seated, or standing with ass above the saddle, but it takes a lot of strength, practice (and a lower gear) to really hold a seated skid. If you just want to skid continuously, then just shift your weight as forward as possible (nuts-to-stem) to keep weight off the rear wheel. But thats not going to help you stop. Edit: this all comes to me as second nature, and I don't think much about how its done. But I think I use the upward momentum of the crank during the backstroke by pressing against it (sort of like a spring) to help temporarily unweight the rear wheel without even having to leave the saddle. I'll think about this a bit as go out for a ride later today. |
Originally Posted by wedoboop
(Post 10368120)
not to sound stupid is it bad to get more skid patches? since i already have a 16 cog and 48 t crank its either cause i want a easy ratio to skid in
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Originally Posted by PlatyPius
(Post 10369602)
Too late. You posted on an internet forum asking about "skid stops".
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@mihlbach if you dont mind asking , its harder to skid on 70+ do you think a 18t cog will go good with my 48 chainring? to make it easier to skid in? and i'll try to put all my weight on the front today . Also how do you bunny hop on rear wheels i would love to know if its easier for me to skid with the ratio i have now
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if you keep the 48 chain ring the 18 cog gives you only a few skid patches, go for the 19 cog (19 skid patches).
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Man I wish people could use the search function, doing little seated skids (baby skids) are different that balls to stem skids, baby skids slow you down/ balls to stem skids look cool
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Originally Posted by hairnet
(Post 10369822)
if you keep the 48 chain ring the 18 cog gives you only a few skid patches, go for the 19 cog (19 skid patches).
like i try to skid but the rear keeps pushing me to pedal |
Originally Posted by wedoboop
(Post 10369647)
@mihlbach if you dont mind asking , its harder to skid on 70+ do you think a 18t cog will go good with my 48 chainring? to make it easier to skid in? and i'll try to put all my weight on the front today . Also how do you bunny hop on rear wheels i would love to know if its easier for me to skid with the ratio i have now
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Yeah, you'll be suprised how much riding helps this kind of stuff (skids, track stands, etc.) even if you don't practice all of the time riding alone will help you with it. Besides, skid stops are far overrated, they eat away your tires and all for the sake of looking cool, and trust me if you aren't even able to do it then it doesn't look cool. Just get a front brake and learn to use it. I'll admit skidding is sometimes fun but I rarely do it because I don't want to go through the trouble of buy and changing a rear tire all of the time.
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Originally Posted by TheBikeRollsOn
(Post 10370080)
Yeah, you'll be suprised how much riding helps this kind of stuff (skids, track stands, etc.) even if you don't practice all of the time riding alone will help you with it. Besides, skid stops are far overrated, they eat away your tires and all for the sake of looking cool, and trust me if you aren't even able to do it then it doesn't look cool. Just get a front brake and learn to use it. I'll admit skidding is sometimes fun but I rarely do it because I don't want to go through the trouble of buy and changing a rear tire all of the time.
I ride with a brake, cause no matter how good I get at skid stops my caliper will always stop me faster |
Originally Posted by cnnrmccloskey
(Post 10370090)
I skid when its wet or through leaves, its fun and less damage to your tire.
I ride with a brake, cause no matter how good I get at skid stops my caliper will always stop me faster |
Originally Posted by TheBikeRollsOn
(Post 10370080)
Yeah, you'll be suprised how much riding helps this kind of stuff (skids, track stands, etc.) even if you don't practice all of the time riding alone will help you with it. Besides, skid stops are far overrated, they eat away your tires and all for the sake of looking cool, and trust me if you aren't even able to do it then it doesn't look cool. Just get a front brake and learn to use it. I'll admit skidding is sometimes fun but I rarely do it because I don't want to go through the trouble of buy and changing a rear tire all of the time.
And, what's wrong with trying to look cool? It's a good portion of fun in anything. Besides, tires will last few months and it isn't much of trouble to replace tires. ... I am donning a white tire next time around to look even more cooler. My rear wheel is white you see? :innocent: |
I didn't say you couldn't stop efficiently without a brake, but you can stop more efficiently with one, rendering the need to skid stop useless, except for fun and coolness factor.
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Originally Posted by Tomo_Ishi
(Post 10370778)
I am no good, but I can come to dead-stop as fast as any braked bikes...
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Originally Posted by Tomo_Ishi
(Post 10370778)
I am no good, but I can come to dead-stop as fast as any braked bikes.
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Originally Posted by teedoff087
(Post 10370917)
If you've taken calculus, surely you've taken physics... ;)
Braking 101 |
Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver
(Post 10370904)
Dammit... my bull**** meter just exploded again.
oh, fffff http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/e/x/...ingheadplz.gif |
Someone needs to do a video of a brakeless hipster doing a skid stop alongside a normal sane human being using just a front brake, and see who stops in the shortest distance. Then, maybe we can stop hearing all this nonsense being repeated over and over and over and.............
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On flat ground I never really need to use a brake or skid..
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Originally Posted by Tomo_Ishi
(Post 10370778)
Oh I dunno. I have pretty much skid-stop to halt and go straight to track-stand anytime I want (my new trick!). I use a little bit of skip so I can keep balance at super low speed. I am no good, but I can come to dead-stop as fast as any braked bikes. ... You just need more practice.
And, what's wrong with trying to look cool? It's a good portion of fun in anything. Besides, tires will last few months and it isn't much of trouble to replace tires. ... I am donning a white tire next time around to look even more cooler. My rear wheel is white you see? :innocent: |
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