Lugged Kilo or Kilo Deluxe Complete Soon?
I read on some thread recently that there may be a lugged version of the kilo coming out soon. Also, that maybe there will be a complete version of the kilo deluxe being released? I am chomping at the bit trying to figure out what I am going to buy, and would really love to know when to expect either of these options. Bikes direct? Anyone else?
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why don't you ask Bikes Direct. or do a search and find the post where he said it.
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I just recently got the standard Kilo TT off bikesdirect and am very pleasantly surprised at the quality of the frame. I went with the cheapest one for $350 figuring that I'd be upgrading pretty much every component eventually - and quickly since most of the components it comes with really are pretty bad. Its a nice starting place though and you're riding right away. Got mine last week and so far have replaced the following:
Bars - replaced with Nitto b123 cromo's (heavy, but pretty stiff) with cinelli cork Pedals - MKS track pedals with soma cages and all city double leather straps saddle - cheap $20 faux suede thing, have Cardiff Cornwall on the way Wheels - velocity's on formulas on their way Cranks, bb, stem and headset are next! The wheels and crankset the bike comes with are tolerable, the rest of the parts are not (the tires are completely dangerous in wet conditions and the saddle is virtually unrideable). But my bike with just the pedals, bars and seat replaced actually rides really, really smooth and solid, not really any less so than any pista or steamroller I've ridden. I might eventually get the chromed out green one on bike island and sell my frame, but probably not; I'm definitely happy enough! |
I hope they don't come out with a lugged version, b/c then i'd have to buy one.... for the right price. Their new 5 speed kilo seems okay, i wish they'd put a freewheel on there.
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Originally Posted by humboldt'sroads
(Post 10477428)
Cranks, bb, stem and headset are next!
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_harpqh_9Iw...k_on_a_pig.gif |
Originally Posted by shubonker
(Post 10477432)
I hope they don't come out with a lugged version, b/c then i'd have to buy one.... for the right price. Their new 5 speed kilo seems okay, i wish they'd put a freewheel on there.
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[QUOTE=preston811;10477451]Lol you're almost to a real bike! j/p
Now all I gotta do is throw down on an extra sick frame and all of a sudden I've got a Kilo back on stock components! Wait, I've not even had my bike for a week....:rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by humboldt'sroads
(Post 10477428)
I just recently got the standard Kilo TT off bikesdirect and am very pleasantly surprised at the quality of the frame. I went with the cheapest one for $350 figuring that I'd be upgrading pretty much every component eventually - and quickly since most of the components it comes with really are pretty bad. Its a nice starting place though and you're riding right away. Got mine last week and so far have replaced the following:
Bars - replaced with Nitto b123 cromo's (heavy, but pretty stiff) with cinelli cork Pedals - MKS track pedals with soma cages and all city double leather straps saddle - cheap $20 faux suede thing, have Cardiff Cornwall on the way Wheels - velocity's on formulas on their way Cranks, bb, stem and headset are next! The wheels and crankset the bike comes with are tolerable, the rest of the parts are not (the tires are completely dangerous in wet conditions and the saddle is virtually unrideable). But my bike with just the pedals, bars and seat replaced actually rides really, really smooth and solid, not really any less so than any pista or steamroller I've ridden. I might eventually get the chromed out green one on bike island and sell my frame, but probably not; I'm definitely happy enough! |
^ haha.
anyway, to the OP, i think Inertianinja contacted BD couple of weeks ago and BD said around june? Iono. hopefully BD will come and clear this mystery. |
Originally Posted by kyselad
(Post 10478362)
Don't steal threads, bro.
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Originally Posted by ichitz
(Post 10479671)
^ haha.
anyway, to the OP, i think Inertianinja contacted BD couple of weeks ago and BD said around june? Iono. hopefully BD will come and clear this mystery. I would love to clear this up; to the point I can Kilo TT lugged sample is made and on the way to me once it gets here, I will take pictures and post Once I approve the design etc; I'll order and I hope it takes only 4 months to get in So maybe by July 15th What colors are most interesting? Worth an extra $150 to have chrome lugs? shooting for $300 to $350 on frameset which would be $450 to $500 with chrome-lugs I hope to post pictures soon |
No chrome lugs for me. Would like it to be without bottle mounts. For colours, I'd like to get black and a green like this:
http://i46.tinypic.com/589du.jpg |
Yeah, I don't think anyone would pay $150 extra for chrome lugs.
Any chance of these being threaded and with a normal 27.2mm seatpost? I wish the kilo tt's were offered like that. I'd buy one if they were. |
I would be interested in a full chrome lugged kilo.
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Originally Posted by bikesdirect_com
(Post 10482272)
I would love to clear this up; to the point I can
Kilo TT lugged sample is made and on the way to me once it gets here, I will take pictures and post Once I approve the design etc; I'll order and I hope it takes only 4 months to get in So maybe by July 15th What colors are most interesting? Worth an extra $150 to have chrome lugs? shooting for $300 to $350 on frameset which would be $450 to $500 with chrome-lugs I hope to post pictures soon Dark Navy Blue, Dark greens, Gunmetal Grey, and/ or black would be great colors for the frame. DO NOT WANT chrome lugs. You won't be selling completes? |
27.2mm seatpost and threaded fork
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I think dark green and navy blue are great colors, I also think white/off-white and sky blue are very classic vintagey tones. I do think a more "vintage" palette would be more appealing on this one, rather than some of the bolder colors.
I think chrome lugs are very nice on some frames, but I think at a $150 premium on a $300-$350 frameset it's going to be a tough sell, as that's a 40-50% premium. While you would probably sell plenty on Rivendells at that price, I think it would be tough to move many Kilos like that. I'm not saying it's too much, I just don't think it fits this frame. I also think this might sell well as a complete. Lots of polished silver, maybe a brown saddle, that sort of thing. If the parts spec is solid, that could be a very competitive $650-$750 complete. While I obviously can't look at your sales numbers (unless you want me to), it seems that the Kilos have reached the recognizability/respect point where a halo model like that could be appealing. Lots of people are buying Kilos and immediately starting to upgrade (see post #3 in this thread), so there's potential to put together a higher-end bike with vintagey styling (which probably wouldn't compete much with the Team Track model despite the similar price point). I remember when I first saw the Kilos in 2007 and read the opinions on here and in some other places, and things have changed a lot. There is a lot of anticipation for this bike. I agree that water bottle mounts and cable stops for a rear brake should absolutely be avoided. Vintage-style decals might also enhance the aesthetic compared to the stock Kilo decals. |
I would love a frame with chrome lugs but I really can't see myself paying an extra $150 for them. If you do the chromed lugs tho, go with a green similar to that on the cinelli supercorsa pista
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...4at82850PM.png |
Sky blue would be an awesome colour. I also agree with the 27.2mm seat and the threaded fork is a must. I wouldn't want any decals on the frameset but I think they would be good for the complete.
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Originally Posted by elemental
(Post 10482572)
I agree that water bottle mounts and cable stops for a rear brake should absolutely be avoided.
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Originally Posted by milkcratebasket
(Post 10482476)
I would be interested in a full chrome lugged kilo.
maybe less than the chrome lugs by a lot and I can tell on Kilo people feel the chrome lug option is too much {new Motobecane lugged road bikes will come both ways; full paint and painted with chrome lugs at $200 MSRP upcharge} |
Originally Posted by shubonker
(Post 10482492)
Dark Navy Blue, Dark greens, Gunmetal Grey, and/ or black would be great colors for the frame. DO NOT WANT chrome lugs. You won't be selling completes?
These sound like great colors as do Cream and Orange I will do as many colors as the factory will allow I will be doing complete bikes as well Probably Framesets First with Complete Bikes later |
I like Sky Blue
27.2 is seat post size on these frames no rack mounts; no H2O brazeons framesets will have no decals except HT logo bikes will have very few decals my solution to threaded fork is easy framesets come with real long streerer tube buyer picks their choice [ahead or threaded] - just setup as you like bikes come with aheadset - and lots of spacers thus easy to convert to traditional for those that prefer easy to convert an aheadset bike to traditional; not so the other way around |
Originally Posted by bikesdirect_com
(Post 10482272)
I would love to clear this up; to the point I can
Kilo TT lugged sample is made and on the way to me once it gets here, I will take pictures and post Once I approve the design etc; I'll order and I hope it takes only 4 months to get in So maybe by July 15th What colors are most interesting? Worth an extra $150 to have chrome lugs? shooting for $300 to $350 on frameset which would be $450 to $500 with chrome-lugs I hope to post pictures soon as much as i like chrome accents, probably not worth $150 to have chrome lugs. Are u still doing the full chrome, or copper version? |
$500 for a kilo frame with chrome lugs??? I dont think so.
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