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John_Roger 04-16-10 06:09 AM

Single speed conversion for vertical dropouts
 
My friend the n00b just overpaid for a schwinn 434 for a SS conversion, he didn't realize that the bike had vertical drop outs.

I like the looks of this, anybody have a set up like this? It seems to be a good choice over a spring loaded tensioner.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rlse9h74Q8Y

lubes17319 04-16-10 08:02 AM

Ghost rings are cool, but why did he throw the bike to the ground?

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=231146

John_Roger 04-16-10 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by lubes17319 (Post 10679537)
Ghost rings are cool, but why did he throw the bike to the ground?

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=231146


I didn't get that part either.

wearyourtruth 04-16-10 08:30 AM

ghost rings look cool, but i don't trust them. you are talking SS and not fixed gear right? if so, just run a tensioner, it's not so bad. i recommend the surly singulator, it rules.

ianjk 04-16-10 08:35 AM

I wouldn't use a ghost ring for daily use. I've run one on a tallbike and found it to be unreliable, plus it is one of those things that won't just pop out/fail while cruising along, it will be while pushing hard and result in pain.

IMO get a real tensioner, it isn't worth busting your nuts or face on a ghetto setup to save a couple bucks.

John_Roger 04-16-10 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by ianjk (Post 10679679)
I wouldn't use a ghost ring for daily use. I've run one on a tallbike and found it to be unreliable, plus it is one of those things that won't just pop out/fail while cruising along, it will be while pushing hard and result in pain.

IMO get a real tensioner, it isn't worth busting your nuts or face on a ghetto setup to save a couple bucks.

Thanks for the tip guys.

harveytan 04-16-10 08:39 AM

If you dont want a tensioner what i did was adjust (shorten the chain) to fit with the freewheel in the vertical dropouts and the chain ring. you can also change the size of the chain ring to get a better chain tension, worked for one of my bikes.

ianjk 04-16-10 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by harveytan (Post 10679699)
If you dont want a tensioner what i did was adjust (shorten the chain) to fit with the freewheel in the vertical dropouts and the chain ring. you can also change the size of the chain ring to get a better chain tension, worked for one of my bikes.

Magic gears are cool, but a tensioner allows you to run whatever gear you want, and takes out a lot of guesswork.

Germanicus 04-16-10 10:13 AM

I'm in the process of doing the same thing. I never really liked the idea of a ghost ring because it looked too cluttered. I will probably just use a singleator but that is not perfect either. I removed the old derailleur only to put on something that looks just like a derailleur. Has anybody had any luck with using half links to attain the magic gear?

chi-james 04-16-10 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by Germanicus (Post 10680207)
I'm in the process of doing the same thing. I never really liked the idea of a ghost ring because it looked too cluttered. I will probably just use a singleator but that is not perfect either. I removed the old derailleur only to put on something that looks just like a derailleur. Has anybody had any luck with using half links to attain the magic gear?

I like the look of the ghost ring, the real problem is chainstay clearance

chi-james 04-16-10 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Germanicus (Post 10680207)
I'm in the process of doing the same thing. I never really liked the idea of a ghost ring because it looked too cluttered. I will probably just use a singleator but that is not perfect either. I removed the old derailleur only to put on something that looks just like a derailleur. Has anybody had any luck with using half links to attain the magic gear?

I like the ghost ring aesthetic, the real problem is chainstay clearance....

SlowRoller 04-16-10 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by John_Roger (Post 10679110)
My friend the n00b just overpaid for a schwinn 434 for a SS conversion, he didn't realize that the bike had vertical drop outs.

I like the looks of this, anybody have a set up like this? It seems to be a good choice over a spring loaded tensioner.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rlse9h74Q8Y

How about an eccentric bottom bracket? I'm thinking about adding one to my parts bin.

evilcryalotmore 04-16-10 05:34 PM

I think thats pretty scary, Just more chances of getting your jeans caught if you dont roll them up

Germanicus 04-16-10 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by SlowRoller (Post 10681197)
How about an eccentric bottom bracket? I'm thinking about adding one to my parts bin.

Do you need an oversized BB for that? Otherwise, what cranks would work?

SlowRoller 04-17-10 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by Germanicus (Post 10682366)
Do you need an oversized BB for that? Otherwise, what cranks would work?

It's a little spendy but imo worth it if you want to convert a frame you really like to ride: http://www.forwardcomponents.blogspot.com/

Note that I can't comment on quality as I haven't tried any of the EBBs out there. I've just always thought they were a neat solution.

wearyourtruth 04-17-10 07:58 AM

you can get an eccentric hub, that doesn't need any special frame... but if you are looking to run a ghost ring you probably aren't looking to spend $130 or so.


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