Originally Posted by Young Version
(Post 10723191)
Aluminum is an element; steel is not. Steel and aluminum are not alloyed together, although aluminum is sometimes alloyed with chromium, which is also used in steel alloys.
A 4130 Cr-Mo frame is an alloy of chromium, manganese, and molybdenum, in addition to steel's requisite iron and carbon. A 6061 aluminum frame is an alloy of magnesium, silicon, copper, and chromium in addition to aluminum. The "T6" that usually follows refers to the heat treating. /engineering lesson |
My buddy has a gutterball. I've helped him do a few mods, it's a decent, slack, aluminum fixed/ss frame. Most of the guys I see riding them are the ones just getting into fixed; makes sense, as that's how GT markets these, as opposed to the hardcore track style of the earlier GTB/Pulses.
GT was talking ab reproducing the GTB/Pulse, but production for the pierced seattube in the triple triangle design was apparently too expensive (That's why the GTB in the word "gutterball" are capitalized, as an homage of sorts). It's also why these bikes are flamed so hard. It's like the redheaded stepbrother of the GTB/Pulse, but GT tries to make it sound like the new, fresh GTB. |
Of course it is aluminium. It has steel reinforced track ends. Why would a steel frame have steel reinforcements?
Alloy is widely used to mean aluminium for bikes. Alloy forks for a FG bike of that price? Bike companies must be laughing at us stupid consumers. We don't lust over expense groupsets, they can charge a lot for bike with no groupset at all! |
So, i've determined:
2009 Gutterball = aluminum 2010 Gutterball = steel alloy (Chro Molly?) Thanks for all the advice and help, everyone. |
NO! 2010 is Aluminium!
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Originally Posted by kr5
(Post 10724308)
So, i've determined:
2009 Gutterball = aluminum 2010 Gutterball = steel alloy (Chro Molly?) How the hell did you make this "determination" after reading all the responses in this thread? They are aluminum. |
I Thought I was being a bit strong with my capitalised NO!
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This is confusing. So, based upon responses in this thread, the bike looks to be aluminum. The website lists the bike as steel. I just called a bike store that carries them and the guy who works there claims that the 2010 is steel, whereas the 2009 was aluminum.
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Just do the magnet test. Or ride a bike that you know is steel/aluminum, and compare the two. Ultimately buy what you think rides nice. It doesn't necessarily matter what the frame is made out of. There's nothing wrong with aluminum, and nothing wrong with steel. What's with the anti-aluminum attitude?
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Perhaps the photos on the website are for the 2009 model and some of the specs are outdated. Ask the guy at the bike shop if a magnet sticks to the frame tubes.
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Those pics are definitely of a '10. It's also definitely made of aluminum.
Here's a link to someone's Velospace who has one: http://velospace.org/node/27242 Look closely at the welds, fool! |
mines the 09 the all black one. and the site does say its steel this is from their site under the features tab not the spec tab "GT Triple Triangle frame in steel for a smooth, dependable ride..."
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Originally Posted by swanny
(Post 10725342)
mines the 09 the all black one. and the site does say its steel this is from their site under the features tab not the spec tab "GT Triple Triangle frame in steel for a smooth, dependable ride..."
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i can see where the confusion is the frame looks exactly the same, if they did switch to steel those are some fat tubes. i say OP when your back in the bike shop flick your finger on the frame to hear the ping then test that out on a known steel frame and aluminum frame the GT should sound similar to one of those (ghetto alchemy)
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I'll check the bike out after work and will do the ping test and the magnet test. I'm really curious. Though, based upon some of the comments, steel doesn't necessarily make the bike a better ride than aluminum.
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I've never seen a steel Gutterball before...
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Not that I doubted the expertise on this board, but it is indeed an aluminum frame, not steel. But F#%k it! I think that's why I like this bike. Super light. Compared to the other single speeds I've tried, it feels more like a bike that can jump onto curbs, and deke around...I love this bike... I'll shut up now. Thanks for the help, people.
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Did you buy it???
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Yeah, man. I bought it :thumb: Super stoked.
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Originally Posted by kr5
(Post 10727500)
Yeah, man. I bought it :thumb: Super stoked.
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Awesome. Glad it worked out after all the confusion!
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Thanks again!
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End note: I'm beginning to wonder why I bought this bike simply because GT seems to suck so much. I finally heard back from two people at GT. The guy who builds the bike (who has "built over 40 of them") didn't know the material of the frame. Also, I got an email back from customer service telling me the frame is steel.
As for the ride. It is light. But, yes, I can really feel the bumps. |
GT aint what it used to be man, that's for sure.
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