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Nitto B123AA w/hoods for conversion question??

Old 04-28-10, 08:51 PM
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Nitto B123AA w/hoods for conversion question??

going for a classic road conversion for a heavy commuter build. b123's i feel have such a classic beauty...i was wondering if anyone has seen someone put hoodbrakes on one and also if the rake is too much on the track bars if riding road (on the hoods)... or if anyone knows of any other deep drop bars that also have quite an immediate bend towards the clamp...let me know what you know
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Old 04-28-10, 10:22 PM
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don't do it, get classic drops if you want hoods.

Hoods on track drops look wrong because they curve down before the shoulders
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Old 04-28-10, 10:49 PM
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Firstly I don't think it will work. I've ridden B123AAs.

Secondly, why turn an apple into an orange? Use road bars that have a proper flat top and proper bends to accommodate brakes with hoods.
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^^^ ....and grooves so the brake cable(s) sit flush under the bar tape.
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And most likely cheaper.
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I have nitto b 115's on my ride

http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...7&currency=USD

lighter/cheaper than the 123's & accept brake hoods

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Old 04-28-10, 11:54 PM
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I tried it and it's not comfortable
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You can use road levers on B123AA (or is it B125?). I found it some place time long ago. I can't find the original source now. I hope wherever you are you won't mind. (And, let me say, ... you rock.)



I am doing a Deda Track bar, but this probably won't work. For one thing, you can only get 42cm (40cm?). And, it has little rumps at shoulders which make it kinda good for riding on it, but levers may have problems with that. (And, it's real expensive.)

I was doing B125, and levers would work. But if you don't like B123 with levers, B125 with levers won't be any different; just shallower.

You might wanna check out Cinelli bars, I know some of those are road / track hybrid. (Is it mod 64?)

Oh and, Soma 456. I've seen people fit road levers on those. But I hear flex is bad, but prolly it won't make any diff for wimps like us.

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sweet action..thanks all!
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haha...sweet action.
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Originally Posted by Tomo_Ishi View Post
Oh and, Soma 456. I've seen people fit road levers on those. But I hear flex is bad, but prolly it won't make any diff for wimps like us.
Tried it. Those bars + hoods = too much reach. I have a shorter stem now, but I'm not sure I want to go through the trouble to set this up again.

And yes, there was a lot of noticable flex when I stood or mashed. It won't made a difference for speed on the street, but it feels weird

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track drops with brakes on a road bike

umm. what?
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some racers (or maybe only one) have had levers modified to use on a b125...it's lots of work to get them to fit right.

the cinelli model 65 is the road bar with the early curve on the flats. you'll have to find a cinelli quill stem to go wtih the bars though.

you could alwasy jsut get a deep drop road bar.
even better is a shallow drop road bar coz you are probably riding a frame that's too small already.
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Originally Posted by blickblocks View Post
track drops with brakes on a road bike

umm. what?
was just trying it
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There are 2 competing ideas which is why this won't work.

Road bars sweep wide then forward at a right angle then down for the drops. When in the drops the rider's elbows are bent which lets the forearm go under the flats and hoods.




Track racing, and Japanese Keirins especially, uniquely involve a Standing Start where the rider's weight is forward and the arms are pulled tight. Some riders legs are so strong that they can actually pull their hands out of the handlebars (hence more lat pull-down work in the gym). Now, if they did standing starts using road bars, their forearms would hit right where the bars turn 90 degrees at the top and go forward to the hood area. Hence, the Track Drop Handlebar where there is no wide flat part. This allows the forearms to clear and not get bruised up.





EDIT:
These aren't the very best photos to use as illustrations. Also, some road bar are better at clearing the forearms than others.
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