Which Tool: Pedros Trixie or Origin8 PB&J
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Well, um, let's see. The Trixie - This is not for track folks. No self respecting track rider would be caught dead with even the phone number of someone who had one of these. So, they're out. Not in the history of fixed gear road bikes has someone with a reasonably maintained bike needed a lock ring tool on the road. Ever. Let me repeat that - ever. So, anyone smart enough to hold and actually use a lockring tool doesn't need the lockring portion of this tool with them as they ride. That leaves a few barely functional "emergency use only" box wrenches and an Allen wrench. The usable item is the 15mm box wrench on the end. Oh yea, and a bottle opener. That is what you purchased. That and shame. That other thing is beneath any comment at all. If you are looking for home tools then do yourself and your bike a favor and purchase reasonably priced, "real" tools.
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^^^
so after all that explanation dissing the trixie, any specific suggestions?
anyway. it's true the most often used tool on the trixie is the 15mm wrench. I've only really rarely used the allen key and those other size wrenches when i forgot other tools. But what I like about it is, it is a solid well made tool and has enough leverage for me to use comfortably without being hard to carry.
And if there's any reason you change cogs often (i don't) there's also the option to attach a chain to the Trixie and make it into a chain whip. Overall I think it's a much better design than other portable tools out there.
so after all that explanation dissing the trixie, any specific suggestions?
anyway. it's true the most often used tool on the trixie is the 15mm wrench. I've only really rarely used the allen key and those other size wrenches when i forgot other tools. But what I like about it is, it is a solid well made tool and has enough leverage for me to use comfortably without being hard to carry.
And if there's any reason you change cogs often (i don't) there's also the option to attach a chain to the Trixie and make it into a chain whip. Overall I think it's a much better design than other portable tools out there.
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The Trixie is cool but I guess it just doesn't make much sense as a "portable" tool, considering the only thing anyone uses when riding is the 15mm wrench. Just carry a 15mm wrench and leave your good chainwhip and lockring tool at home, right?
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I suggest carrying individual tools designed to perform their specific functions. We're riding fixed. We just don't need that much. But, we need them to work because they are the difference between riding and pushing. I hear what you are saying about the trixie. But, take your addition - a chainwhip. When was the last time you needed that on the road? You don't. Again, what we all need are tools that actually work. That means gaining an understanding of what tools are needed to fix your bike and carrying them. If you need a lockring tool and chainwhip on the road (I don't care how far or for how many days you plan to be out) you have serious bike maintenance issues. These items simply do not magically explode and you are not going to wear them out on your next week long trek. You need to be able to get the wheels off, doink with the chain, maybe tighten down the brake lever, threadless headset, bar ends or swap out a cable or tighten up a chainring bolt, Things like pedals, cogs, and lockrings simply do not just undo themselves. If you have them installed correctly, you've given them opportunity to seat themselves and you've double checked them then they stay that way. Absolutely, positively, unequivocally guaranteed.
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Well, um, let's see. The Trixie - This is not for track folks. No self respecting track rider would be caught dead with even the phone number of someone who had one of these. So, they're out. Not in the history of fixed gear road bikes has someone with a reasonably maintained bike needed a lock ring tool on the road. Ever. Let me repeat that - ever. So, anyone smart enough to hold and actually use a lockring tool doesn't need the lockring portion of this tool with them as they ride. That leaves a few barely functional "emergency use only" box wrenches and an Allen wrench. The usable item is the 15mm box wrench on the end. Oh yea, and a bottle opener. That is what you purchased. That and shame. That other thing is beneath any comment at all. If you are looking for home tools then do yourself and your bike a favor and purchase reasonably priced, "real" tools.
if you are starting off and dont own many/any tools, getting two tools you'll need in 1 tool plus a bottle opener isn't a bad thing. true, you wont need a lockring tool on the road, but the 15 mm is obviously useful. so is the bottle opener.
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ichitz,
I suggest carrying individual tools designed to perform their specific functions. We're riding fixed. We just don't need that much. But, we need them to work because they are the difference between riding and pushing. I hear what you are saying about the trixie. But, take your addition - a chainwhip. When was the last time you needed that on the road? You don't. Again, what we all need are tools that actually work. That means gaining an understanding of what tools are needed to fix your bike and carrying them. If you need a lockring tool and chainwhip on the road (I don't care how far or for how many days you plan to be out) you have serious bike maintenance issues. These items simply do not magically explode and you are not going to wear them out on your next week long trek. You need to be able to get the wheels off, doink with the chain, maybe tighten down the brake lever, threadless headset, bar ends or swap out a cable or tighten up a chainring bolt, Things like pedals, cogs, and lockrings simply do not just undo themselves. If you have them installed correctly, you've given them opportunity to seat themselves and you've double checked them then they stay that way. Absolutely, positively, unequivocally guaranteed.
I suggest carrying individual tools designed to perform their specific functions. We're riding fixed. We just don't need that much. But, we need them to work because they are the difference between riding and pushing. I hear what you are saying about the trixie. But, take your addition - a chainwhip. When was the last time you needed that on the road? You don't. Again, what we all need are tools that actually work. That means gaining an understanding of what tools are needed to fix your bike and carrying them. If you need a lockring tool and chainwhip on the road (I don't care how far or for how many days you plan to be out) you have serious bike maintenance issues. These items simply do not magically explode and you are not going to wear them out on your next week long trek. You need to be able to get the wheels off, doink with the chain, maybe tighten down the brake lever, threadless headset, bar ends or swap out a cable or tighten up a chainring bolt, Things like pedals, cogs, and lockrings simply do not just undo themselves. If you have them installed correctly, you've given them opportunity to seat themselves and you've double checked them then they stay that way. Absolutely, positively, unequivocally guaranteed.
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As a home tool I could see this if on a serious budget. I'd suggest making sure the lockring tool fits your lockring. But, a quick trip to the dollar store will buy everything (to include a chain tool) a man needs on the road. Even patch kits if you don't mind the old school glue, stomp down and wait 15 minutes method.
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What a fiery thread so far...
I have the trixie. I use it as my main lockring tool.
I take it with me when I ride. I find it quite functional.
I have the trixie. I use it as my main lockring tool.
I take it with me when I ride. I find it quite functional.
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well yes, I agree with you on all your points regarding maintenance and all. I also do have tools at home that serves their individual purpose. The trixie is also definitely not the only thing I carry. I guess what i'm trying to say is, if i'm gonna carry a 15mm wrench roughly the same size, i might as well carry a trixie that's primarily used as a 15mm wrench anyway which at rare times I do use for other purpose (not lockring nor chainwhip).
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