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Brooks (B17) Saddle on a Track Bike. Good idea?

Old 07-06-10, 05:39 PM
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Brooks (B17) Saddle on a Track Bike. Good idea?

Bike shorts aren't cutting it for me on long rides.
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Old 07-06-10, 05:57 PM
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I have a B-17 Narrow on my SE Premium Brew a Team Pro on my Madison. I love my Brooks saddles.
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Old 07-06-10, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by northsjfixed View Post
Bike shorts aren't cutting it for me on long rides.
some shorts suck for you
some saddles suck for you

I don't know which is it for you or both.
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Old 07-06-10, 06:11 PM
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Try rocking them noseless saddles.








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I'd buy different pair of shorts first, before dropping a hundred bucks (or more) on a B17, Brooks aren't for everyone.
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I got a B17 special on my peugeot and picked up a Team Pro for my new project. They're great saddles that adapt to you . Over a few hundred miles they'll break in and feel more confortable than any saddle you've ever been in. Its a dime a dozen to hear of a 30 year old Brooks saddle someone still uses and loves. Its a great saddle all year long, just use a plastic bag or a fancy saddle cover in the rain. I'd also recommend locking your saddle down when you are out and about. I actually just use an extra bit of chain to lock mine down. Nothin would suck more than to ride home on a friggen seatpost. Brooks saddles are great looking saddles and also some of the best seats you can buy. I'd recommend it to anyone who is in the market for one. Take it easy.
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Old 07-06-10, 06:46 PM
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just to throw in my 2 cents:

i love my brooks b17 narrow on my street track bike. or whatever you call fixed gear bikes nowadays lol

mind you, i got the NARROW....the other b17s feel a little big n wide to me.

just an FYI, there is some giant UK bike store called wiggles that sells brooks b17 narrows for 80 something, with free shipping even to the states. cheapest i found online for a new brooks....
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Just a heads up the B-17 is designed for setups where the saddle to bar drop is minimal. Despite what you see online, it is not designed for any extended time in the drops.
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Old 07-06-10, 07:44 PM
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That's where the B-17 Narrow comes in.
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Old 07-06-10, 08:33 PM
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Or a Swift.
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Old 07-06-10, 09:09 PM
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wallbike.com lets you return the saddle if you are not happy with it.
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Old 07-06-10, 09:16 PM
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i have a b17 on my fixed gear surly and love it although monster kidz is right i dont utilize my track drop bars like i used to. only drop down to lower bar section during short speed bursts
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Old 07-07-10, 04:37 AM
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My black B17 Ti Special used to be on my Roubaix Comp...now its on my f/g Soho S. The B17 is pretty comfy for my 255lb big @ss...firm yet springy when it needs to be. Can 't wait for it to conform to my "sit-bones" or what ever its called. Besides more saddle time, how can I speed up the process?
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I had a B17 for a little while and hated it. Too much perinneal pressure. There's a reason no track racers have ever used a Brooks...
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I can't stand the B17.. I have one I bought for my Aurora. I took it off a few months after I got it and replaced it with a Swift. It fit my ass much better. I tried putting the b17 on my Sputnik after I got it a couple weeks ago, but it still doesn't feel good to me.. so I just ordered a Swallow for it, so we'll see how that goes.
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Originally Posted by PedallingATX View Post
There's a reason no track racers have ever used a Brooks...
Because they're not on the bike for extended periods of time?
I had a B17 for a little while and hated it. Too much perinneal pressure.
I think they're the wrong shape for aggressive posture, I usually see them one fairly upright setups. How do you ride?
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Originally Posted by hairnet View Post
Because they're not on the bike for extended periods of time?

I think they're the wrong shape for aggressive posture, I usually see them one fairly upright setups. How do you ride?
I ride in a pretty aggressive position. In the drops a lot. Any bike w/ real track geo is going to put you in an aggressive position, which is why I don't recommend Brooks on track bikes. I guess if you have risers or something it's a diff story, tho
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Originally Posted by PedallingATX View Post
I ride in a pretty aggressive position. In the drops a lot. Any bike w/ real track geo is going to put you in an aggressive position, which is why I don't recommend Brooks on track bikes. I guess if you have risers or something it's a diff story, tho
There are many different types of Brooks saddles,.. Some are fine for aggressive riding.

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I have a B17 narrow, and it's incredibly comfortable. One think to think about, something I wish I had known prior to my purchase, is that it can be uncomfortable in the drops. While going 30+ mph, the 3-hole cut-outs can catch you in a bad place. This also could be attributed to my spinning out like a mad-man.
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ran a b-17 on my madison, and run a b-17 on my crosscheck currently.
on my madison it wasn't as comfortable because it had some saddle to bar drop..but my crosscheck is pretty much even.
did 77mi on the crosscheck yesterday and it felt great, as usual.
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Originally Posted by apopuri View Post
I got a B17 special on my peugeot and picked up a Team Pro for my new project. They're great saddles that adapt to you . Over a few hundred miles they'll break in and feel more confortable than any saddle you've ever been in. Its a dime a dozen to hear of a 30 year old Brooks saddle someone still uses and loves. Its a great saddle all year long, just use a plastic bag or a fancy saddle cover in the rain. I'd also recommend locking your saddle down when you are out and about. I actually just use an extra bit of chain to lock mine down. Nothin would suck more than to ride home on a friggen seatpost. Brooks saddles are great looking saddles and also some of the best seats you can buy. I'd recommend it to anyone who is in the market for one. Take it easy.
Although I don't doubt what you wrote...but the items that I highlighted in bold are the reasons I don't care to own a Brooks saddle. I'm not singling you out personally. Just providing some counter to the "Brooks are awesome" crowd.

- I don't want a saddle that takes "a few of hundred miles" to break in. Modern saddles are nice and comfy from ride #1.
- I don't want a saddle that I have to oil regularly and keep out of the elements. If I'm caught in a rain storm on a long ride, the last thing on my mind is finding a bag to cover my saddle.
- I don't want to bother with locking my saddle to my bike to protect it from shady hipsters. (I hope they don't start liking Fizik Ariones)
- I don't plan to keep a saddle for 30 years. A saddle isn't an investment. It's something you put your butt on when your ride your bike. After 30 years of butt-sweat I'm sure you guys would probably smell me coming before you saw me
- Brooks saddles are heavy compared to modern saddles in the same price range.
- Brooks saddles became big on the FG/hipster scene because it had qualities that were cherished by hipsters: handmade, expensive, leather, old, hard to find...so it must be better, right?
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By the way, regarding my comment about weight in the post above. Street riding involves a lot of stop-go-stop-go-go-go-STOP... All things being equal, lighter bikes perform better in such environments.

Not that folks on this scene need to be weight weenies, but I've held some HEAVY street FG bikes of my friends. 30lb bikes that could easily be 18lb bikes if different choices were made during the build. When I had my stock Pista Concept (way back in 2005), my friends would marvel as to how light it was. This made it VERY easy to climb hills, accelerate, and decelerate.

EDIT: I remember this being just over 16lbs. It's a 57cm.


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carleton - no harm meant by this but whatever point you're trying to make here in SSFG, you usually resort to pointing out the differences between more track-oriented fixed gear riders and those who just simply ride fixed gear bikes. What you're saying here is along the lines of why would someone want a classic muscle car when it's so much more convenient to drive a modern ricer?

We don't all think like you.

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True true. I am too lazy to oil my Brooks and keep them happily covered in plastic bags while I am gone. NJ's mercurial weather conditions dont really help either. One minute it could be 98 degrees, and while I am in the shop, it could suddenly start pouring.

I just got these, and they are great so far. + They are cheap, so I could always replace them if I have to!

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