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thinking about starting fresh with an aluminum frame bike

Old 07-07-10, 10:40 PM
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thinking about starting fresh with an aluminum frame bike

thinking about upgrading my se lager for awhile now. looking for something fast and light. i use my bike for short commutes and general fun and exercise. i'm also thinking about starting on the track as well but the closest velodrome to me isn't so close.

so far i've been considering the cinelli vigorelli from pro bike kit. it's under 600.

looking at others but they might be out of my price range. i'm thinking i can afford about 5-6 hundred plus whatever i get from selling my bike.

aluminum bikes aren't mentioned much on this board and was wondering what input people had on my options.
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I'm over 200. I ride the snot outta my aluminium bike. Buy what gives you a stiffy and have fun.
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You might be able to get Masi Coltello for $600~ if you get lucky. I freakin love that frame.
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Only reason I got off my aluminum frame was I wanted something I could be more agressive on the streets with... I love my aluminum frame. Its fast, responsive, light, and for a 250lbs rider like myself its stiff.
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anyone have any suggestions with frame options compared to the viggorelli i'm looking at in terms of price range?
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you could pay a little more and get the Bianchi Super pista in celeste
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Originally Posted by whitekimchee View Post
you could pay a little more and get the Bianchi Super pista in celeste
where's the best place to get one online?
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that masi is repulsive.
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Well I believe the color just became available so I'm not sure if any online retailers have them yet (someone correct me if i'm wrong). I would try hitting up a LBS that carries Bianchis.
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Originally Posted by adriano View Post
that masi is repulsive.
I agree.

BUT, the Super Pista in celeste is F'n HOT. I want it. Basically the same as the '05 but with a stronger seat tube/seat post junction so it doesn't crack like the original Concepts did.
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you could pay a little more and get the bianchi super pista in celeste
Finally there's salvation~!

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Originally Posted by plowmanjoe View Post
anyone have any suggestions with frame options compared to the viggorelli i'm looking at in terms of price range?
Trek T1. Framesets are $300-400. Sure it doesn't have super oversize/aero tubing, but it's light, stiff, twitchy and fun to ride. Also the 2009 and earlier models are red. Everyone knows red makes you go faster.
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i just "Ughh!'d" out loud. UOL! ugh like orgasm sound.

sexy.
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Originally Posted by PedallingATX View Post
I agree.

BUT, the Super Pista in celeste is F'n HOT. I want it. Basically the same as the '05 but with a stronger seat tube/seat post junction so it doesn't crack like the original Concepts did.
I've had my 2006 Concept for 4 years and another dude has a 2005, and the seat tube hasn't cracked on either of ours. In fact I know prolly a dozen racers with older Concepts and I've never heard of this problem. The new Super Pista does look nice, though, so at least I know I can replace my Concept if it gets wrecked.
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Old 07-08-10, 01:24 PM
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I ride a Giant Bowery, Aluminum, $500, fast light and tough. I weight 190lbs I drop that thing off 1.5 foot curbs, no issues.
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correction, the Bowery runs $650-$750 this year

https://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-US/...mx/3927/36634/
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie View Post
I've had my 2006 Concept for 4 years and another dude has a 2005, and the seat tube hasn't cracked on either of ours. In fact I know prolly a dozen racers with older Concepts and I've never heard of this problem. The new Super Pista does look nice, though, so at least I know I can replace my Concept if it gets wrecked.

Yeah, I mean I think it's more an issue with inexperienced ppl overtightening the bolt, but apparently it was enough of a problem for Bianchi to address it in the new model.
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so waiting for the bianchi i would be paying 750 compared to under 600 with the cinelli. what are some of the benefits of the bianchi over the cinelli?

it seems like bianchi is much more popular. i've seen the vigorelli in person a few times and it's a beautiful frame.
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Originally Posted by plowmanjoe View Post
so waiting for the bianchi i would be paying 750 compared to under 600 with the cinelli. what are some of the benefits of the bianchi over the cinelli?

it seems like bianchi is much more popular. i've seen the vigorelli in person a few times and it's a beautiful frame.
I honestly dont believe the new Super Pistas are worth the price. I paid 500 for a new Pista Concept and rode it for nearly 3 years before selling it for 550 after the Concept had gained a huge following. 'Under 600' is a good price for, I'm assuming, a new Vigorelli.
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Originally Posted by squeegeesunny View Post
You might be able to get Masi Coltello for $600~ if you get lucky. I freakin love that frame.
I bought one for 500$ in green. I absolutely love that frame. At first I was a little hesitant but it has grown on me ten fold.
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Originally Posted by ididthistothat View Post
I honestly dont believe the new Super Pistas are worth the price. I paid 500 for a new Pista Concept and rode it for nearly 3 years before selling it for 550 after the Concept had gained a huge following. 'Under 600' is a good price for, I'm assuming, a new Vigorelli.
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The Bianchi is a super serious track racing machine with very tight geometry, even more so than the Cinelli. If you are primarily riding on the street, the Cinelli might be better, but it would still be more than capable as an occasional velodrome weapon. Both frames are beautifully finished, but the Cinelli is plainer looking and I personally prefer the Bianchi, although I am biased cuz I have one. My 2006 Concept is super stiff and responsive, yet extremely light. I have ridden it briefly on smooth roads, but am not sure I'd enjoy it on anything rough.
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Originally Posted by plowmanjoe View Post
do it! the bb shell has a smiley face on it. I love my Cinelli and so will you
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie View Post
I've had my 2006 Concept for 4 years and another dude has a 2005, and the seat tube hasn't cracked on either of ours. In fact I know prolly a dozen racers with older Concepts and I've never heard of this problem. The new Super Pista does look nice, though, so at least I know I can replace my Concept if it gets wrecked.
Same for me; I have the '05 with the army lettering...

Just wondering is the super pista in celeste allowed in the concept superthread?
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I'm really leaning towards the vigorelli right now. just need to figure out my size.

i see that the sizes for the vigorelli are from center to top. i ride a 52cm se lager. does anyone know if that's c-c or c-t?
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