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Thylacine 09-13-04 03:39 AM

Dream the dreamy dream of dreamness
 
Okay, so I was just thinking. The majority of us ride singlespeeds or fixed gear bikes in an 'urban environment', right? To me, that means NOT a track bike and NOT a 'traditional' singlespeed mountainbike.

So what's your dream bike? I'm not talking 'NOS 3Rensho' territory here - I'm talking you designing a specific fixie or SSer just for screaming around town on.

I have to confess I'm a hipocrite here, coz I ride a singlespeed mtb with a semi slick rear tire so I can do a bit of everything on it, but when I lie down to go to sleep at night, it's not my ultimate urban machine.

What I'd like to build is maybe a 700c bike, with weird bars ( Think Jones bars have sex with a Nitto Moustache ), 35c tires, Stans Magura Martas ( yeah, disc brakes ).....titanium of course so it'll last forever.....probably mountainbike geometry......basically the hybrid hybrid makers were thinking of when designing a hybrid but instead made some girly piece of poo fat ******s bike.

Hrm....maybe that's exactly what I just described, but what the heck! :o

You have a clean sheet of paper. What would you make? How would it refect who you are and where you ride?

Bikkhu 09-13-04 04:03 AM

Ok, let's talk pr0n ;)

Yamaguchi custom steel frame, Royce hubs on Fir tubulars, Campy record, Nitto bullhorns and stem, Thomson post and a black Brooks Swallow, thank you very much

ssorg 09-13-04 04:22 AM

didn't trek at one point in time have a hybrid made of carbon tubes and steel lugs?

sohi 09-13-04 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thylacine
What I'd like to build is maybe a 700c bike, with weird bars ( Think Jones bars have sex with a Nitto Moustache ), 35c tires, Stans Magura Martas ( yeah, disc brakes ).....titanium of course so it'll last forever.....probably mountainbike geometry......basically the hybrid hybrid makers were thinking of when designing a hybrid but instead made some girly piece of poo fat ******s bike.

Hrm....maybe that's exactly what I just described, but what the heck! :o

You have a clean sheet of paper. What would you make? How would it refect who you are and where you ride?

sounds like the mulTIbike that these guys do:
http://www.magmaa.com/indexeng.html

the problem is it doesnt look sexy so I find it hard to justifiy the cost.

a titanium version with trackends of this one would be nice:
http://www.viciouscycles.com/images/...rrior-page.jpg

Bikkhu 09-13-04 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sohi
sounds like the mulTIbike that these guys do:
http://www.magmaa.com/indexeng.html

the problem is it doesnt look sexy so I find it hard to justifiy the cost.

a titanium version with trackends of this one would be nice:
http://www.viciouscycles.com/images/...rrior-page.jpg

Vicious Cycles has THE nicest paintjobs...

Jesse M 09-13-04 07:54 AM

speaking of dreams...

last night i had a dream that i was walking around, and a roadie almost plowed me over. then for some reason he stopped, and i told him he should convert his bike to a fixed gear. and then there was that whole part with me and some girl sneaking into a hot tub, but i'm not going to get into that...

isotopesope 09-13-04 08:41 AM

vicious bikes are top notch. i got to meet carl and get a tour of his shop this summer.

i think the best all around bike is a single speed 29"er. they are great for urban and dirt. fast on the flats and roll over anything in the dirt. xcutterx just got a sweet vicious motivator that is so hot it makes me want to punch my grandma eighteen times after she just baked a cake. a 29"er is going to be one of my next bikes.

p3ntuprage 09-13-04 09:17 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/oz_chi/GP10.jpg
saw this in the road forums. someone rode it in the sf t-mobile shindig.

24" wheels for flickablity would be interesting in a city. and the softride beam for adjustability and comfort.

hmmm... are 600x35 tyres available anywhere?

[if not bike pr0n, it's at the very least hella interesting]

fsnl
sparky

cyclorat 09-13-04 10:15 AM

if i had a 3Rensho, i'd still ride it in the city.

i'd like a really spaceship looking steel frame though (for messin) but of crazy lightness, with corima 4spoke carbon wheels with clinchers (but magically capable of getting to 130 psi, not just 110) and whatnot

make it look like a crazy streetship weapon thingy, kinda like tony86's bike, for any chicagoans who might know it

isotopesope 09-13-04 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyclorat
... clinchers (but magically capable of getting to 130 psi, not just 110)

vredestein fortezza's are clinchers with a max of 145 psi...

Thylacine 09-13-04 06:30 PM

Why would anyone want to run tires that hard? Do people have an aversion to traction or something?

That Vicious is nothing like what I imagine as a urban speedster. It looks to me like a yuppie bike for executives who want to ride around the lake with their kids on the weekend. :) Not bad paintjob though. Down tube panel is too close to the head tube, but I guess I'm being pedantic.

Now that I think about it, Discs might be overkill, but the attraction of never having your rims wear out has got to be attractive for those that do the big commutes. Hrmm.

Okay. 700c. Titanium frame, mtb style singlespeed. Room for 35c with fenders, rack mounts. Cable discs. 135mm rear spacing. Weird bars. Rigid? probably. Hrmm....Maybe V-brake rear with the Paragon horizontal dropouts with derailleur hanger? So you can at least run gears at the back if you must?

OneTinSloth 09-13-04 09:31 PM

http://fujibikes.com/images/bikes/royale04_4.jpg

maybe you were thinking of something like this? but Ti, and with different handlebars?

OneTinSloth 09-13-04 09:34 PM

http://www.raleighusa.com/images/ite...Ral_C700-f.jpg

http://www.raleighusa.com/images/ite...500-Grey-f.jpg


the raleigh c700 and the the raleigh c500.

Thylacine 09-13-04 09:43 PM

Umm.....no.

OneTinSloth 09-13-04 09:57 PM

sssooooo...they're not SS. basically, what you want is a 29er with discs and slicks?

jitensha! 09-13-04 11:31 PM

japanese NJS lugged steel. dura ace 10mm pitch drivetrain. maybe one of those cool front brakes that straps onto the fork blades that the keirinists use for training. that's it. i don't need no cecil fancypants bike.

Ceya 09-14-04 12:05 AM

jitensha_de_go!.

Quote "japanese NJS lugged steel. dura ace 10mm pitch drivetrain. maybe one of those cool front brakes that straps onto the fork blades that the keirinists use for training. that's it. i don't need no cecil fancypants bike"

I have one just like the one you are requesting with the 10mm Pitch. The brakes don't strap to the fork blades it a regular hole in the fork. The rear brakes that clamps on above the rear brake bridge.

S/F,
CEYA!

If you want a frame YES NJS Steel lugged please email me.

Thylacine 09-14-04 12:21 AM

But dude....you're not Japanese.....you don't race Keirin in Japan....and you don't live in Tokyo. Snap out of it! ;)

sohi 09-14-04 03:30 AM

the vicious looks like a yuppie bike? hahaha who do you think will pay
for your "practical-elderly-people-titanium-wonder"

Ceya 09-14-04 04:42 AM

was that comment for me?

S/F,
CEYA!

sohi 09-14-04 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceya
was that comment for me?

S/F,
CEYA!

no. for thylacine, he commented on the vicious cycles bike as being a yuppie thing :)

*new*guy 09-14-04 07:29 AM

Thylacine--- Are there any non-custom bike builders you like?

skitbraviking 09-14-04 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p3ntuprage
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/oz_chi/GP10.jpg
saw this in the road forums. someone rode it in the sf t-mobile shindig.

24" wheels for flickablity would be interesting in a city. and the softride beam for adjustability and comfort.

hmmm... are 600x35 tyres available anywhere?

[if not bike pr0n, it's at the very least hella interesting]

fsnl
sparky


no, that's not dorky at all!

skitbraviking 09-14-04 08:12 AM

My bike porn of choice:

track frame, tight geometry, nicely cut and interestingly cut lugs but nothing too fancy. miche or campy track cranks, 165. phil woods on mavic open pros. one of those pricey, fancy brooks saddles. gouge bars, just like my own (Nitto promendes, flipped forwards, see my post on here: http://bikeforums.net/showthread.php...&page=36&pp=25). nitto pearl stem. campy pedals with some nice straps or Time MTB pedals.

oh, it makes me horny, just thinking about it.

p3ntuprage 09-14-04 08:14 AM

as an evolution to the thoughts on the 24" softride thing:

285mm bb height. 135mm rear spacing. 20" [406mm] wheels. clearance for 44mm tyres.

mounts for mudguards, a milk-crate sized rack under the beam, and for a rack on the headtube [so that the rack doesn't move when you steer].

cable disc on the front, maybe one on the rear too with one of those funky tech-wank-fodder paul disc-mounts. provision for mounting v-brakes, sidepulls.

stainless steel track-ends with integral axle keeper type things [like the paul ones]. mounted far enough forward so that if all the racks and stuff are taken off, the rear wheel can be pushed right up to the bb, but long enough so that with a milkcrate on the rack, the axle can be behind the center of gravity of the crate.

[apart from all that: white industries hubs, hed jet40 rims, campy pista chainset, chris king threaded headset, carbon bars [bullhorn or drop]]

i'm getting a semi-on just thinking about it...

fsnl
sparky


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