EssEllSee

I have a Windsor Hour, and am looking to upgrade my crankset. I'm still relatively new when it comes to bottom brackets and BCDs, but from what I gather, my stock bottom bracket is 103mm, so therefor I need to get a crankset that matches that, correct? I have heard good things about Sugino Messenger, as well as the Sugino RD, which both fit 103mm. Keep in mind I am sort of on a budget.. trying to keep it around 100-150$. If I wanted different cranks, would I need a different bottom bracket? Will any bottom bracket fit the stock Hour frame? Also, if I buy just the messenger crankarm, and it says that it has a 130BCD, does that mean I need a chainring with a matching 130 BCD? Thanks for the advice guys, sorry for the noob questions.

spaceballs

SRAM S300 track crankset. Will be ~$100 and will include a new BB and chainring.

EssEllSee

Will it be a noteable upgrade from the junky stock crankset?

spaceballs

Yes. Do some searches and you will see that it is a pretty solid design. While I don't know what the stock cranks are like on your bike, I can say with certainty that the outboard bearing cranks I have ridden have been stiffer than the taper/octalink cranks I have ridden.

gobby1095

truvativ omnium. Comes with bottom bracket and arguably the stiffest and beefiest on the market.

EssEllSee

Seems a solid crank, yet a bit out of my budget.

whitekimchee

I beg to differ my friend. peep this: https://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_S...ls&ProdID=1371

Sure a little out of your budget, but what's an extra $15 for a top of the line crankset

spaceballs

I bought a set of SRAM Omniums for my latest build, but after seeing a set of SRAM s300s I am not sure if the Omniums were necessary.

The s300 is a crank in similar design, but not near as beefy as an Omnium. There are some clearance issues with the Omnium on some framesets and these shouldn't exist with the s300 [less beef and smaller BCD].

EssEllSee

Oh wow, Google was bringing up cranks that were 210$+. Props on the link, is bikeisland reputable? I'm also reading that it has an integrated bottom bracket. Does that mean that it will fit my stock Windsor frame?

EssEllSee

The SRAM Omniums are definitely cranks I wouldnt mind having if I had the extra cash, so if you say that the s300's are decent when compared to the Omniums, it might be something to consider.

spaceballs

Bike island is solid. This is where I bought my Omniums.

The Omnium is probably a little more crank than most of us need; I know that it is more crank than I need. The bottom bracket is an external bracket, and it will work on your Windsor. What I would worry about with the Omnium crankset is that the inside of the spider is really thick and will not clear all frames.

This is an s300 road crank [right] compared to an Omnium crankset on the left.

The s300s are very decent. On my conversion, I used a SRAM Rival road crank - which is very similar to the s300 - and I never flexed it or had any other problems with it. These cranks are an excellent choice for your bike especially considering you can find the s300s on ebay for <$100, including a chainring and BB.

EssEllSee

Excellent, thanks spaceballs. I appreciate the thorough reply, the s300's look solid

squeegeesunny 

Ooooh, thanks for the bikeisland link. I didn't know they sold Omniums. I know what I am getting when I have $170