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European track frames

Old 07-28-10, 04:15 PM
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You suck!

600 Euros sounds reasonably enough to get you a nice track frame.
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Here you go.
https://www.bobjacksoncycles.co.uk/pr...roducts_id=307

Maybe one of these?

https://www.hubjub.co.uk/gorilla/hattara.htm

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Seems like Gorilla store is in Switzerland. I'll give them a visit if I can.
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Tokyofixed Gear
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Dodici (aka Vintage Pista) is in Milan
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I tried this back in March | April while visting Italy.

First off you'll have to deal with the VAT on your purchase. If you buy anything over a couple hundred Euro you can get the VAT back when exiting the EU but the item must be unused and in its original packaging. I bought a camera on the trip without knowing it had to be unused but I lucked out at customs in Palermo and they didn't ask to see the camera.

I spent a bit over two weeks winding my way around going to Venice, Milan, Sienna, Florence, Cinque Terre, Rome, Messina and a couple other small towns in Sicily. During the trip I found exactly one fixed gear for sale - a Cinelli Mystic Rats - in Florence (Florence by Bike). No one had used or vintage track frame sets and craigslist isn't as happening as it is in the US. The only thing people rode around on were utilitarian city bikes. Heck, I think I counted a total of 12 roadies in full kits during the whole trip.

Also keep in mind that the Euro is stronger than the dollar (1:1.2979) so everything costs 30% more, even after you get the VAT back. You'll also need to find a UPS store to ship it or deal with carting a bike box on your flight.
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The gorilla rocketroll looks pretty nice - except for the italian bb. That hattara looks nice - reminiscent of a bareknuckle. I have to admit that once I learned the guy that built Ciocc was one of the two frame builders for Gorilla bikes - I became much more interested.

But back to the original question - where to go in europe. are you looking for cities to hit, or specific spots within certain cities? from a big picture perspective - as cheesy as it is, paris is amazing - as long as you skip the tourist stuff and just ride around the city (and outskirts) and enjoy food/drink. Barcelona is also one of my favorite cities out there. I'm a fan of just lazying my way through cities/neighborhoods as opposed to trying to hit as many museums/sites as i can fit in a day. It seems the best stuff i find is never what i'm supposed to be looking for.
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Originally Posted by mumblesmumbles
I tried this back in March | April while visting Italy.

First off you'll have to deal with the VAT on your purchase. If you buy anything over a couple hundred Euro you can get the VAT back when exiting the EU but the item must be unused and in its original packaging. I bought a camera on the trip without knowing it had to be unused but I lucked out at customs in Palermo and they didn't ask to see the camera.

I spent a bit over two weeks winding my way around going to Venice, Milan, Sienna, Florence, Cinque Terre, Rome, Messina and a couple other small towns in Sicily. During the trip I found exactly one fixed gear for sale - a Cinelli Mystic Rats - in Florence (Florence by Bike). No one had used or vintage track frame sets and craigslist isn't as happening as it is in the US. The only thing people rode around on were utilitarian city bikes. Heck, I think I counted a total of 12 roadies in full kits during the whole trip.

Also keep in mind that the Euro is stronger than the dollar (1:1.2979) so everything costs 30% more, even after you get the VAT back. You'll also need to find a UPS store to ship it or deal with carting a bike box on your flight.
Ah... seems like more trouble than I need on a vacation. I guess i'll just buy an eiffel tower snow globe.
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Eiffel Tower Snow Globe: 18€

Cinelli Vigorelli: 500€

Spend remaining 82€ on a couple nice bottles of wine. Or one really nice bottle of wine. Or 41 crappy bottles of wine.
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OR instead of wine, I could get 82€ worth of some legit italian Nutella.
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Zullo Pista.
https://www.zullo-bike.com/products/pista85.html

I love my Zullo!!! Pricey but the guy built frames for some Track world champions in the mid/late 90's! So you are paying for a good frame with a pedigree which is more important than a sticker/name!
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Holy s--t, I was on my honey moon in Tahiti in 2004. My wife and I "discovered" Nutella while we were there, even bothering to bring some home with us... A week after returning home guess what we find in the grocery store? F--king jugs of the stuff!! None the less, we still like it!
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Originally Posted by squeegeesunny
Ah... seems like more trouble than I need on a vacation. I guess i'll just buy an eiffel tower snow globe.
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It's dead simple. You just fill in a form at the airport and show them receipts and the good you have bought.

Anyway, try contacting Will at HubJub, he's extremely helpful and a straight shooter. He might have a frame that's not on the webpage.
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If you want to buy used and you're in France then check out www.leboncoin.fr
search "velo Piste", and frame is "cadre" in french

For example, here's a vintage gitane track frame
https://www.leboncoin.fr/sports_hobbi...80.htm?ca=22_s

good luck!
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Woah, thanks man.

And @coma, Nutellas from different parts of the world are all different. Italian ones are the b3sst
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Originally Posted by squeegeesunny
Woah, thanks man.

And @coma, Nutellas from different parts of the world are all different. Italian ones are the b3sst
Forget that, if you want good stuff you got to go premium, you know, something that is actually made with lot of real hazelnuts and descent chocolate.
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