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Just learned to skid! Then blew a tire?

Old 08-10-10, 11:57 AM
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Just learned to skid! Then blew a tire?

So in the last week or two I've learned to skid! I'm so happy and skidding is so fun. So I've been skidding a bunch to practice and also to learn to do it with the other foot and I just blew a tire.

I'd like to continue to practice skidding, but not if I'm going to burst a tire every two weeks. Is there a way around this? How long should I expect tires to last with frequent skid stops?

The tires are Maxxis Detonator, 700 x 25t.

I'm running 47 teeth up front and 19 in back, so that means I should have 19 "skid patches" according to Sheldon Brown, right?

The tires were inflated to about 120psi. I don't think this is a case of over-inflation as the tread has clearly worn through. It is possible I was skidding on under-inflated tires for a while because I didn't have access to a pressure gauge. Would that be the cause?

I've also ridden on some dirt roads/trails, would that cause accelerated ware?
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Yay!
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put https://www.biosafe-inc.com/shoegoo.htm on your tire before it wears through

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I think you answered your own question:

Originally Posted by Austinnh
The tires are Maxxis Detonator
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Stop skidding so much. Skidding is not a sport its a way to stop in a hurry if you have to.
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Originally Posted by Austinnh
So in the last week or two I've learned to skid! I'm so happy and skidding is so fun. So I've been skidding a bunch to practice and also to learn to do it with the other foot and I just blew a tire.

I'd like to continue to practice skidding, but not if I'm going to burst a tire every two weeks. Is there a way around this? How long should I expect tires to last with frequent skid stops?

The tires are Maxxis Detonator, 700 x 25t.

I'm running 47 teeth up front and 19 in back, so that means I should have 19 "skid patches" according to Sheldon Brown, right?

The tires were inflated to about 120psi. I don't think this is a case of over-inflation as the tread has clearly worn through. It is possible I was skidding on under-inflated tires for a while because I didn't have access to a pressure gauge. Would that be the cause?

I've also ridden on some dirt roads/trails, would that cause accelerated ware?
No, just be prepared to buy new tires every two weeks or more.
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Originally Posted by Capocaccia
Stop skidding so much. Skidding is not a sport its a way to stop in a hurry if you have to.
What is up with people on this forum hating on skidding?

Skidding is part of riding fixed for alot of riders in the city. How is the OP supposed to "stop in a hurry" if he hasnt taken the time to learn how to skid proficiently?
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Originally Posted by wmgreene85
What is up with people on this forum hating on skidding?

Skidding is part of riding fixed for alot of riders in the city. How is the OP supposed to "stop in a hurry" if he hasnt taken the time to learn how to skid proficiently?
front brake

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Originally Posted by Capocaccia
Stop skidding so much. Skidding is not a sport its a way to stop in a hurry if you have to.
No, that's what brakes are for. If stopping as quickly as possible is your goal then skidding doesn't even enter into the equation. Not that it isn't fun of course.
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Originally Posted by Capocaccia
its a way to stop in a hurry if you have to.
except it takes forever to stop you
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Originally Posted by wmgreene85
What is up with people on this forum hating on skidding?

Skidding is part of riding fixed for alot of riders in the city. How is the OP supposed to "stop in a hurry" if he hasnt taken the time to learn how to skid proficiently?
Question is why are people who skid to get their FG bikes to stop so surprised when their tires go bald and blow out? Then they post the same ****ing question about which tire will last longer! I'll go ahead and answer this question....The one with the front brake!
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Skid more and your entire bike will blow on you.
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Originally Posted by MajorMantra
No, that's what brakes are for. If stopping as quickly as possible is your goal then skidding doesn't even enter into the equation. Not that it isn't fun of course.

I agree. Thats what brakes are for. If you dont have brakes, you have to skid. Why would you use a skid to stop if you had brakes?
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Originally Posted by Capocaccia
I agree. Thats what brakes are for. If you dont have brakes, you have to skid. Why would you use a skid to stop if you had brakes?
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I skid because it's fun. If I want to stop I use the front brake of course.

Anyway if having fun is going to cost me a bi-weekely tire blowout I guess I'll stop skidding.
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Originally Posted by wmgreene85
Skidding is part of riding fixed for alot of riders in the city. How is the OP supposed to "stop in a hurry" if he hasnt taken the time to learn how to skid proficiently?
coz u can't "stop in a hurry" with skids. Why else do they hold longest skidding contests? Skid stops are faster than skids but still nothing compared to a front brake.

To be easy on ur wallet, run a front brake. If not, skid to ur heart's content. I was riding by the beach last weekend and came across a thin sand covered pavement. Couldn't resist the fun so i was like WHEEEEEEEEE~. End fun. Back on the road with front brake.
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If you are going to be skidding alot just buy the cheapest tires you can afford and be ready to burn through them frequently..
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Also swapping the rear to front as it gets worn can save some $$$.

Although some may argue that running a worn front tire is a bad idea.
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Well, front tire is responsible for stopping and the guy is not even using a front brake...so maybe it is a good idea.
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Originally Posted by ichitz
I was riding by the beach last weekend and came across a thin sand covered pavement. Couldn't resist the fun so i was like WHEEEEEEEEE~.
This sounds fun.
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Sometimes I skid stop, but not if I really want to stop quickly.. i use my brake in those instances. I do it for fun. But I can also afford a new tire if I need one.
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Originally Posted by asherlighn
This sounds fun.
oh indeed it was
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Personally, I like to ride, stopping sucks, regardless of how you accomplish doing it !
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Originally Posted by Vixtor
Well, front tire is responsible for stopping and the guy is not even using a front brake...so maybe it is a good idea.
What? I just said I use the front brake for stopping. Are you talking about someone else?
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