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Once again: just wear a ****ing helmet already

Old 09-22-10, 07:01 PM
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You do whatever you want to do but dont try to scare me into wearing a helmet
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You do whatever you want to do but dont try to scare me into wearing a helmet
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Old 09-22-10, 07:18 PM
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If a car runs over your head, it's not gonna matter if you're wearing a helmet. There will probably be damage.
And yet you still see "he wasn't wearing a helmet" in the news article when the cyclist is crushed.
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got hit by a car. on radio heard a bicyclist killed by a car a few hours later.

damn.
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Old 09-23-10, 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by dahut View Post
Agreed. Which is why I do wear a helmet.
But I made the choice - and I may un-make it tomorrow. What I just dont relish are folks like you telling me to get the f***ing helmet on, already... because you think I should. There are enough behavior police out there, I don't need you, too.
So dont read the thread.
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Old 09-23-10, 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Fugazi Dave View Post
So dont read the thread.
Great answer there, Dave. "Dont like what I say? Dont listen, dont comment dont have an opinion to express of your own."
SO when are you getting our of high school?
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Scathing reply. I will burn for days.

Seriously, though - my whole point is that my helmet saved my ass and there my be some people out there on the fence who might wear a helmet after seeing this. That's a good thing. If you already wear a helmet, then why the hell are you bothered by my telling people to wear a helmet? I can tell people to do whatever the hell they want, but that doesn't mean they have to listen.

As for getting out of high school, managed to do that about 10 years ago.

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Fugazi Dave - Some people crash some don't. As simple as that. Is like flats...I never carry spares I am confident on my tires and myself.
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Old 09-23-10, 06:20 AM
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Bull****. If you ride enough, you *will* crash (and get flats, for that matter). If you've been lucky so far, that's great. Keep it up (as long as you can).
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Originally Posted by Hartigan View Post
Fugazi Dave - Some people crash some don't. As simple as that. Is like flats...I never carry spares I am confident on my tires and myself.
I believe this is what we call tempting fate around here.
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I never carry spares I am confident on my tires and myself.

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I would like to add that while I am admittedly cranky this week, I don't want this thread to become some negative, bickering thing. I believe in helmets and think people should wear them. My experience a week ago confirms this. But, I also know that this is a personal choice and some people just aren't going to wear a helmet, etc. Which is fine, even if I don't like it.

Let's just all try to be safe in whatever way we can, alright?

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One thing to note is that a helmet doesn't protect your jaw from being mangled. Years ago I broke my jaw and shattered 4 teeth on the side of a car. Just my luck that I hit it at such an angle.

I was knocked out clean. That said, I think if I wasn't wearing a helmet, I would've gotten more than a concussion and a broken jaw!
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Its aerodynamic I give you that!
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Originally Posted by Hartigan View Post
Fugazi Dave - Some people crash some don't. As simple as that. Is like flats...I never carry spares I am confident on my tires and myself.
Let me guess:
You've been riding regularly since about June 2010.
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Originally Posted by Fugazi Dave View Post
Bull****. If you ride enough, you *will* crash (and get flats, for that matter). If you've been lucky so far, that's great. Keep it up (as long as you can).
Not really, but if you want to think that and it helps you feel better, than go for it. Not everyone that cycles, or drives, or climbs stairs, or whatever else is going to have an accident. These things aren't inevitable. Not every ironworker fell off a beam back in the old days either. The only time I crash my bike is when I decide to do risky things like jumps. The word accident is misleading, anyway, because most of them can be avoided by paying attention.

Of course, these things are hard to think about rationally after you've been in a collision, but whatever, keep preaching the helmet panacea if it makes you feel better.
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Originally Posted by Fugazi Dave View Post
I would like to add that while I am admittedly cranky this week, I don't want this thread to become some negative, bickering thing. I believe in helmets and think people should wear them.
On that we can agree. How people decide for themselves, however, is always best left to them, IMHO.
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Accidents are inevitable. The exception is that for some lucky few the timeline works out to their advantage and they stop doing whatever before their card comes up.

A helmet is not a panacea and I have never said it was. In the event that you smack your head on something really hard, however, it's a nice thing to have.

EDIT: Also, consider this. How comfortable would you be recommending that people *not* wear helmets because they won't necessarily have an accident? Would you want to take on the responsibility of putting out information that will likely eventually harm someone? On the other hand, I feel no conflict in saying that people should wear helmets. They wear a helmet and never have an accident, great. They wear a helmet and have an accident, they may well be decidedly better off for it.
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lots of times you are paying attention but the people who run into you are not. You can reduce the chances of accident by being more aware, sure, but I'ld have to agree that it's inevitable.

Anyway, we can all agree to disagree, but I don't know why some choose to argue the no helmet option to a guy that just smashed his in an accident. I think Fugazi Dave is just trying to make us more aware. You can choose not to listen. Stop arguing and just wish him a speedy recovery.
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How comfortable would you be recommending that people *not* wear helmets because they won't necessarily have an accident? Would you want to take on the responsibility of putting out information that will likely eventually harm someone?
Is there someone here who says don't wear a helmet? Luckily I don't have to worry about your hypothetical situation. I've never left for a ride with someone and said "You should probably take that helmet off, you won't need it." Everybody should use their own discretion as to what level of protection they need.

For whatever reason, cycling is one of the more helmet-happy sports there are, especially in the amateur and non-competitive realm.

So far this year I've bit it once while cycling, once while running and once while skateboarding. I'm still not gonna put my bike helmet on 'til the next time I ride trails, race, do stunts or ride in freezing conditions, however.
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Originally Posted by ianjk View Post
American male average lifespan: ~75 years

American male professional football player (all positions) average lifespan: ~55 years

You cannot really compare cycling head trauma (maybe a couple dinger'z per lifetime for above average cyclist) to those of an athlete who takes dozens of hits almost daily in both practice and in games.... Figure they start in what 6th or 7th grade and play through college, then pro.... We are talking years of repeated abuse, not only to the brain, but to the rest of the body.
To compare the avg. lifespan of males isn't exactly a valid comparison either. Maybe avg. lifespan of anyone that suffered a collision with a head injury while wearing a helmet on a bike vs a football player ? But that would be hard to compare too, usually getting involved with a car, death occurs more frequently because of other factors. What I'm referring to is more like the comparison from brain studies:

https://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n5371686.shtml
https://www.life123.com/health/first-...ncussion.shtml

Lifespan really isn't the benchmark I'm looking to measure, it's the identifiable damage in whatever scans they can do. The CBS story shows repeated concussion damage later, maybe decades later. And that's a perfect example for football, but what about what is detectable for cyclists and head injuries decades later ? No data on that I guess, or perhaps the study isn't available yet ?
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lots of times you are paying attention but the people who run into you are not. You can reduce the chances of accident by being more aware, sure, but I'ld have to agree that it's inevitable.

Anyway, we can all agree to disagree, but I don't know why some choose to argue the no helmet option to a guy that just smashed his in an accident. I think Fugazi Dave is just trying to make us more aware. You can choose not to listen. Stop arguing and just wish him a speedy recovery.
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Originally Posted by Fugazi Dave View Post
EDIT: How comfortable would you be recommending that people *not* wear helmets because they won't necessarily have an accident? Would you want to take on the responsibility of putting out information that will likely eventually harm someone? On the other hand, I feel no conflict in saying that people should wear helmets. They wear a helmet and never have an accident, great. They wear a helmet and have an accident, they may well be decidedly better off for it.
I have no problem reminding people that they are as likely to have a debilitating accident while cycling as they are while cleaning their gutters. The truth is that cycling is very safe - far safer than many things we routinely do without helmets.
I also don't tell people to do something simply because I think they should heed my notions of insurance. If they choose to - fine. If not - fine.
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Originally Posted by Fugazi Dave View Post
As for getting out of high school, managed to do that about 10 years ago.

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oh yah? SO HOW is TOILET TRAINING COMING ALONG???

PS HOW IS UR MOM'Z LAMAZE CLASSES COMING ALONG???

oh wait im not even in this argument my bad.


PS WEAR A HELMET LOL
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