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Old 12-18-10, 04:27 PM
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today i finally got to ride my recently completed lemond conversion (commuter path was still covered in snow / ice yesterday). my lemond went from ride-once-a-year road bike to my new favorite.



a few observations:
the bianchi is the heaviest by far, feels a bit sluggish even though it has the lowest gearing (44-16)
the cinelli is stiff, don't feel any lateral flexing in a sprint (aluminum + omnium cranks + steel track drops + stiff wheels). the lemond flex is noticeable (steel + sugino rd cranks + carbon fiber bullhorns + 28h light wheels)
once you get the cinelli going, it holds onto it's speed - heavy h+sons just keep spinning
the lemond is the lightest, velocity aerohead rims spin up lighting fast - noticeable difference from the cinelli, even both bikes have 165mm cranks and 48-17 gearing
the lemond feels like it has the quickest steering, cinelli has similar fork rake but feels a little more stable, probably b/c of the lightwt bullhorns on the lemond
The 3/32 chain on the lemond is much quieter than the 1/8 chains on the other 2 bikes, maybe bc it's new?
i'm thinking about putting studded tires on the bianchi to make it my snow bike. did some looking around and seems like it can fit 700-28, maybe 700-32 tires. has anyone put 700-32 studded tires on a pista?

has anyone tried zip ties on ice / snow?
https://www.dutchbikeco.com/_blog/Dut...Snowpocalypse/
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How about some cross tires? I'm sure you could get away with some low pressure knobby tires in snow and if you aren't going crazy fast maybe even ice.
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You have three of the same bike
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that ziptie trick looks legit
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Personally the only one that I would love is the LeMond, it's the lightest and probably the cheapest. Slap some paint on it though, it's rather strange looking right now.
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How did you get the Chain up to proper tension on the Lemond? When I had a Lemond Buenos Aires I had to use a Surly Singulator. Did you use a eccentric bottom bracket or hub? or did you use half links or is that gear ratio of 48-17 just right.
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I used an ENO eccentric hub. I replaced the crank set and bb to match the ENO chainline




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You're lucky bikes don't have emotions, if they did, your mash would probably be planning to kill you... or do they?
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I love my mash too, but it's probably jealous.
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You won't be able to fit any studded tires on your Bianchi. Time for a new frame! Nice bikes, but something with some tire clearance would reduce the redundancy and fill a niche it sounds like you want.

remember, the answer to bike problems is always spend more money.
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Do you own a road bike?

If not, why not? Why have two perfectly good street track bikes (a low end and high end) then build a conversion as a third? I would have suggested spending the time and money on restoring it to a nice road bike with road pedals, bars, etc...

Have you ridden a road bike lately? They are pretty nice.
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Originally Posted by carleton
Do you own a road bike?

If not, why not? Why have two perfectly good street track bikes (a low end and high end) then build a conversion as a third? I would have suggested spending the time and money on restoring it to a nice road bike with road pedals, bars, etc...

Have you ridden a road bike lately? They are pretty nice.


Sorry Carleton,

This topic has been done to death about this particular ride. Let it go, he loves his conversion and its a smooth bike.
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dat zip tie trick. Kind of want to try it.
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the "cable tie chains" should work well until you get a flat. then you will be cursing the idea.
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Originally Posted by solbrothers
You have three of the same bike
Qft, some things I just don't get.
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The Lemond probably has quicker steering because the wheels are lighter. I felt a noticeable difference in steering quickness on my 10-speed when I replaced the steel wheels with alloy ones.
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The zip tie trick doesn't work very well.
Think about lateral traction.



As for the OP, it's not surprising that your newest bike is also your "favorite".
That said, I'd take the Lemond out of any of those.
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I don't think enough people still appreciate the simplicity and beauty of a conversion due to the number of specifically designated "street style SS/FF" bikes that have come out. Personally I think converting a bike is awesome. especially doing the work yourself. If I had an 853 steel frame and didn't need a road bike, hell yeah i'd convert it. and make it my primary ride. Steel is real. and the higher numbers make it realer.
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853 is alright, but I prefer 854.
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i have a one track mind, have tried convincing my wife to ride fg (to no avail). lately i've been trying to convince my son (ss at least if not fixed). going to measure his inseam today.
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Originally Posted by avner
I don't think enough people still appreciate the simplicity and beauty of a conversion due to the number of specifically designated "street style SS/FF" bikes that have come out.
I don't think enough people appreciate the mechanical ingenuity and beauty of a road bike due to the prevailing fixie fad that has been going on.
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i love biking, i love riding fixed and will be doing next year's century on one of these bikes. one day i hope my son does one with me.
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Originally Posted by seau grateau
I don't think enough people appreciate the mechanical ingenuity and beauty of a road bike due to the prevailing fixie fad that has been going on.
Well I don't mean to be a dbag but... If you would like to speak to fellow road bike enthusiasts about the atrocities that beautiful road bikes are experiencing at the hands of mad people caught up in a fixed gear fad I would direct you to this area or perhaps this area to locate more sensible and like minded peers.

I completely understand why people would want to see that beauty back into gear status but hey, its not your bike, no need to argue the pros and cons. If Dcv is in love get excited too. As for 854, I prefer my steel
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This is my bike. There are many like it, but this one is mine. My bike, without me, is useless
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