surly stripping?
 

has anyone here ever stripped a surly hub? i just got one and i wanted to know how tough they are. my first fixie!

I never had, been riding them for off and on over a year...skidding on them too. Never stripped one. Tightened everything nicely too to make sure no play would develop. So far, so good.
But I di recall someonehas blow the threads away on one in here

i've been riding on my surly hubs for over a year as well. i don't really skid a ton, but they have held up terrificly through daily commuting.

I've used a Surly rear hub for 3 years of nearly every day, all season Wisconsin riding. Haven't had a problem.

ok where are all the people who’ve stripped one I know your out there. So far I have not but based on previous similar post it is of some concern. The guy that runs the shop I got my bike from unthreaded the lock ring on his but he was touring loaded at the time down a significant hill.

EDIT: oops my bad Suzie Surly Sells sea shells or what ever. I have a Suzie...

just don't get a surly cog with it.

Ditto. I have been riding a Surly fixed/fixed for over 1 1/2 years, no problemos.

The daily use has included skids, brakeless riding, offroading, left-side drivetrain setups, and general overall abuse. I am meticulous about my cog/lockring being tight, but everyone should be.

Only problem I have had was blowing a set of bearings out. This was entirely due to personal ineptitude, as this was my first hub to have cartridge bearings - ever. 'Taint quite the same as cup and cone.
Nice thing is, 12 bones later you have new bearings and they just pop right in.

-Pete

Yeah, well, the current system of threaded cogs and lockrings was never designed with anything other than the velodrome in mind. Truly, it is rather archaic, considering we are riding machines that are virtually unchanged after 100+ years - and designed for something entirely different than what most of us use them for.

That is part of the joy and virtue of it all - but some things can be improved. Take a look at the INI hub for example. I don't have one, and probably won't for a good while, but from an engineer's perspective it is a far superior design to what we have now. Even using a boone cog with a disc hub is a huge improvement.

Why not?

I've done it, but it was an act of my own stupidity. Not the hubs fault. Got a little crazy with the loctite and couldnt get the lockring off. Stuck it in a vise and... Viola! No more lockring threads. And if that isn't bad enough... I did it to both sides. (wasn't there a dumb things we've done thread somewhere) Either way i still ride the hub. One side the cog is jb welded on (the best in skid confidence) and the threads are still there to put on another cog when this one wears out. Then and only then will i get another hub. It will probably be a surly too.

I've had the first gen surley hub (back when it was called 1X1) for 4 years. Mine is for SS not fixie but it has been great. not one problem. I think the issue with the surly cogs are that they are to thin (the threaded part that is.) On lesser hubs such as the suzue basic, they can strip out the threads. I would go with a DA or EAI cog.

Sheldon Brown recommends against Surly cogs. For whatever reason, they weren't up to snuff. However, it seems Surly may have recently redesigned the cogs, as was hinted at on thier website.

eai cogs are some of the best cogs i have seen or used.

i guess surly had new track cogs at interbike this year. i think a problem with the old ones is the flange was too thin and when tightened down, a lockring wouldn't really mate up with it very well to hold it in place. the cog could unscrew a bit before coming in contact with the lockring.

Since this is turning into a cog thread, and there's certainly nothing wrong with that, I recently got a Soma cog and will report that it is heavy duty...well made...very nice...noticeably better than both the Surley and the Miche I had before.

I'll help make this more into a cog thread. Why would you go with something other than Dura Ace? They are priced lower than their competitors (at least the ones I have seen) and their quality is top notch. I don't see why the other brands sell when they compete with DA.

Yep DA cogs rule, but they don't make all the sizes. I believe 16t is the highest.

I had a 17.

Maybe.

I swear it was a DA and 17t, but I don't have it anymore. If they still (ever) make 17t cogs, I sure can't find evidence. My current cog is a DA 16t, so...

Hey, good question...hmmm, no easy answer for me. I'm not really anti-Shimano but out of 5 bikes I only have it on my mountain bike...prefer Campy on road bikes and just like the Shimano alternative otherwise. Ok, ok, it seems I am anti-Shimano after all...but I do know it's great stuff and I ain't knockin' you for liking it.

I have an 18t Surly cog that I used through 1 winter (maybe 5 months) and the teeth bent all to hell. They look like little waves curled to one side. I've had a DuraAce 16t for maybe 8 or 9 months and it's only bearly worn. The 14t Shimano that came with my bike that shows less wear, though I have the feeling that only ever saw the track before I got it. The body of the cog and the teeth is roughly twice that of the Surly.

And no, I've never stripped a cog off of either of the Surly hubs that I've had. I had a year on the first one before it was stolen, and a little over that on the new one. One thing I reccomend with the hubs is to replace the wide locknuts on the cones - if you tighten the tracknuts down too tight, you can crack and destroy them. Put new nuts on before you ride it too much.

I blew out my bearings as well earlier this year (feb).
got 'em repacked at flanders here and haven't had a problem since.
they look better than suzue basics anyway (sic)

How do you repack sealed bearings? Or did you have them replaced?

If they're cartridge, you toss the bearings and put in new. If they're sealed but not cartridge (like some BB), you have to junk the whole unit.

thanks for yer input kids. and on while were at it. what brands of cogs/lock rings should be avoided?

my campagnolo and eai cogs are beefier looking than the d-a's. granted i've never used a d-a, just visually compared them to other cogs.