Yoshiyuki

I'm getting C eggbeaters can I use the cleats that come with them on road shoes? And what are some good road shoes under $100? And are sizes of shoes done the same as regular shoes.

dsh

Yes your eggbeater cleats will work with most road shoes.

Are you sure you want "road shoes"? Or do you want shoes you can walk around in off the bike as well? Mission Workshop was selling factory second Rondels for $80. That is a good deal. You should see if they're still doing it.

The sizing is usually european. You can google an equivalent size chart.

vw addict

this, road shoes suck to walk around in. And your cleats will wear out really fast if you do.

Nick The Beard

I plan on getting some DZR Strasse (same manufacturer as the Rondels) but I gotta vote for at least MTB shoes as the cleat is recessed and not a problem to walk in.

Yoshiyuki

It's for riding I won't be doing much walking in them unless I stop at a convenient store or somewhere to eat but that's like minimal walking.

carleton

Eggbeater cleats will not work with most road shoes.

Eggbeater cleats have a 2-bolt MTB shoe "SPD" pattern ("SPD" because Shimano Pedaling Dynamics designed that standard).

Most road shoes have a 3-bolt "LOOK Style" ("LOOK Style" because LOOK pioneered that design.

Some entry level road shoes accept 3-bolt AND 2-bolt systems. Mid to high end shoes generally don't. Many Shimano shoes do, but probably because they invented the SPD.

Shimano RO86:

carleton

Road cleats on road shoes have cleat protection built in to the cleat (the "pontoons").
MTB cleats on MTB shoes have cleat protection provided by the thick sole.

MTB cleats on road shoes provides ZERO protection for the cleat.



I suggest using road pedals with road shoes or MTB pedals with MTB shoes.


Oh and eggbeaters suck. Get TIME ATACs if you are dead-set on using MTB pedals. But, I think Shimano R540 road pedals (or any quality road pedal) would be even better.

dsh

FTFM
(fixed that for me)

Fynn

On a road bike group ride last year we came upon a bridge out and made the decsion that we had to carry our bikes through some slight mud to get to the other side. Everybody there but me had road shoes with road clips. I got to the other side and my shoes were full of mud, but still I was able to click in and ride off.

Everyone else was basically dead in the water. A couple guys spent as much as 30 minutes trying to get going again, as they couldn't get there cleats to lock in again. Another rider had the opposite problem and couldn't get there cleat to disengage and had to ride the final 30 miles carefully because he couldn't get his foot out of the pedal.

Mtb shoes with eggbeaters are the best all around simplistic solution. Lightweight, mud proof, and great for walking.

carleton

Riiiight. Ride hundreds and hundreds of miles in MTB shoes and pedals for the off chance that you will have a bridge go out the night before and you have to cross 30' of ravine then not know how to clean your cleats before you get back on the bike.

Yeah. That's real smart

That's like the guy mountain biking for years with road pedals for that 30' paved section as he crosses a street.

Evaluate the job. Pick the right tool.

time bandit

lol at telling people that CB cleats will work with road shoes....ugh, ssfg is so funny.

Nick The Beard

Not being a dick, genuine curiosity...

What are the downside of mountain shoes vs road shoes?

dsh

In the sub-$100 category of "road shoes", more will be spd-compatible than not.

Sub-$100.

Less than $100.

hairnet

I dont think there is a downside. You just have to choose what works for what you intend to do.

For rides that I dont intend to get off the bike for more than a few minutes I may take the bike I use road shoes with. If I go on a casual ride or something else and know I will get off the bike walk a bit then I will take the bike I use mtb shoes with.

Other than that, road pedals and shoes are more comfortable for long rides

Cynikal 

For me, Road shoes are stiffer than my MTB shoes although both have a carbon sole. Also, the road pedal has a firmer engagement thus the cleat is harder to unclip.

icyclist 

I think I defer to carleton's knowledge on many subjects, but not when it comes to eggbeaters. I've had the atacs, and while both are fine, I prefer the eggbeaters. I find they are easy to clip into, and lightweight.

Both my expensive, very stiff mt. bike shoes, and a relatively inexpensive pair, are more than stiff enough for a 100+ mile ride, on my fg bike or my road bikes.

I wouldn't go back to road shoes, unless I raced on the road, and wanted to look like everyone else looks as they hobble around off the bike.

dsh

Road shoes will be considerably lighter than comparable mountain bike shoes. A fair estimate would probably be 25% lighter.

Example:
Shimano SH-M076 = 680 grams
Shimano SH-R076 = 480 grams

200 grams on your feet is not negligible.

kyselad

I've also ridden both, and I've settled on atacs. Both give comparable ride performance imo, though the variety of platforms on the crank bros pedals is nice. The main selling point for me on both systems is that they tighten as you pull up, and I like that sort of security. But I gave up on eggbeaters when the spring busted on one of my pedals and it was a pain to get fixed, as most shops won't have the right tools. Turns out this happens more than one would hope, and while crank bros is good about doing the repair when you send in the pedals, it's obviously a hassle. The atacs have a better reputation for reliability and, so far in my hands, one that bears out.

RobertFrapples

If decide you want road shoes, why Eggbeaters?

I use Eggbeaters on my mountain bike and my cross bike, and Speedplays (with road shoes) on my road bike. The Speedplays are similar in that they have free float and entry and exit are both very easy.

If you are going to be riding anywhere they salt the roads, save up and get the Eggbeater SL. The C will rust.

icyclist 

"Road shoes will be considerably lighter than comparable mountain bike shoes."

Probably only for less expensive models. At the upper end, it's much closer. For example:

Sidi Genius 6.6 Carbon Mega Road Shoes: 586 grams

Sidi Genius 5 Pro Carbon Mega Road Shoes: 614 grams

A one ounce difference. At the lower end, the disparity is greater, but not necessarily by much. Shimano's current low end shoes are a little under two ounces apart.

Eggbeater pedals with cleats are considerably lighter than most road pedal systems, so the difference doesn't have to be that much between road and mt. bike shoes.

dsh

Was it a typo that both of those are "road shoes"?

Yoshiyuki

Damn been searching time atacs and there's some real decent prices on used. Anything to look out for

Corwings

https://www.pricepoint.com/detail/135...ium-Pedals.htm

Shoe and pedal for under 100 pre tax/shipping.

PluperfectArson

This is the best part, I love ducks.

icyclist 

I hate it when I do that.

I should have compared apples to apples, say Sidi Genius 5 Pro Carbon Mega Road vs Sidi Dominator 5 Mega MTB, each going for same price, 614g for the road shoes, 696g for the mtb shoes. That's about three ounces worth of difference, which is significant, although somewhat negated by using eggbeaters.