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Old 02-22-11, 09:16 PM   #1
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Bikes on a Plane: Tips for flying with your bike?

I'm headed back to Bellingham in a few weeks and I want to take my fixie with me. I know my LBS rents bike travel cases for $40 a week and I will be gone for just over a week. I'm not sure, but I'm figuring they'll charge me for two weeks then. Have any of you flown with your bikes? If so, do you have any tips or cheaper ways to transport them? I will most likely be taking two Bombardier Q400's so space is too cramped to try and bring any components in my carry-on. A fully loaded backpack won't even fit in their overhead bins.

Oh and I will be flying Alaska or Horizon Air. They say that bikes are subject to overweight and oversize fees but I'm pretty sure I can keep it under 61 in and 50 lbs.

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Old 02-22-11, 09:33 PM   #2
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I cant help you here, but i definitely would like to hear of others experience with flying since I too fly a lot.
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Your bike will in no way not fit in an overhead bin nor pass security checkpoints.

You can always rent/ buy a travel case; a good one that I recommend and personally own is trico's iron case. I trust it to my full carbon orbea orca. However it does not prevent your bike getting lost with luggage.

Another option is to get a bicycle box (the ones that new bicycles come in from the factory) from your LBS and package it super secure. They usually throw them away so they would likely give you one for free or for a couple dollars.
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Oh and I will be flying Alaska or Horizon Air. They say that bikes are subject to overweight and oversize fees but I'm pretty sure I can keep it under 61 in and 50 lbs.
Under 50 lbs.? Probably. But under 61" (62" on most airlines exc. Alaska) - no way for a regular bike. That measurement is the sum of length + width + height. Pack two regular size wheels in a box and you'll be pretty close to that limit already so unless the frame folds or comes apart you'll end up way over. Can't help with recent experiences using a regular bike since I switched to a Bike Friday folding bike years ago to make travel easier. It fits within a regular suitcase that's just barely within the 62" limit - but that's with 20" wheels and a folding frame. My experience has been that airlines are pretty strict about the weight limit but don't usually measure for the 61"/62" limit if what you have looks like a normal suitcase. But the typical bike carriers are way over the limit and look it.

Check the oversize baggage charges of the potential airlines carefully and it wouldn't hurt to print out a copy of their rules and charges. Keep it handy at checkin just in case they try to charge you even more.
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Under 50 lbs.? Probably. But under 61" (62" on most airlines exc. Alaska) - no way for a regular bike. That measurement is the sum of length + width + height. Pack two regular size wheels in a box and you'll be pretty close to that limit already so unless the frame folds or comes apart you'll end up way over. Can't help with recent experiences using a regular bike since I switched to a Bike Friday folding bike years ago to make travel easier. It fits within a regular suitcase that's just barely within the 62" limit - but that's with 20" wheels and a folding frame. My experience has been that airlines are pretty strict about the weight limit but don't usually measure for the 61"/62" limit if what you have looks like a normal suitcase. But the typical bike carriers are way over the limit and look it.

Check the oversize baggage charges of the potential airlines carefully and it wouldn't hurt to print out a copy of their rules and charges. Keep it handy at checkin just in case they try to charge you even more.
Oic. I didn't ever catch that with the limit being the sum of the sides. I usually pack everything in a carry on anyway so I haven't had to deal with it . I looked up the oversize fees and it's $50 both ways. I could probably ship it to myself for cheaper! There's a chance I'll just drive home instead. If not I'll see if any of my friends driving back that way for spring break have a bike rack :/

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Take the train.
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Take the train.

Amtrak just plain sucks.... hands down.... slow and expensive....
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True, I still take it though. Actually it's like stepping back in time after riding trains all over france.
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i've checked both my kilo and concept as luggage in the same mercier box twice now for free but that can only happen if you're doing straight up international to international.
bubble wrap x sh*tload + a full size bike box did it for me there and back both to tokyo and rome and back.
if you're flying anything within the same continent, yea expect to pay that $50 oversized fee.

one thing you CAN do if you're trying to hack the 61cm.total.dimension thing and if allowed 2 free checked luggage is to check nothing by bike parts:
one box frame and parts only
one box wheels only
(both must be boxes you can get from lbs of exact dimensions and no bigger)
then just carryon a pair of skinny jeans and buy some walmart v-necks when you get there.

TL : DR - you're fked if you're flying within the same continent.

*EDIT:OT - fk trains (unless its bullet or japanese)

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Old 02-22-11, 11:21 PM   #10
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Amtrak just plain sucks.... hands down.... slow and expensive....
But possibly more lax on baggage fees.

I'm not sure about Alaska Air, have never dealt with them, but my experiences with bikes/surfboards and airlines would suggest that it would be more prudent to buy or rent a bicycle at your destination. Then, sell or give it away when you leave.
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If you do pack your bike for the plane or shipping I recommend pipe insulation as protection for the tubing. Cheap, readily available, and effective
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oh yea here's your carryon
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Whenever I fly, I find it cheaper to ship than to move as luggage. But I've only flown along the eastern seaboard and into the midwest, so shipping rates < oversized luggage rates.
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This can be an option as well.
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^holy ****

I'm pretty sure you can ship your bike via amtrak also, and then fly. Ship a day or so ahead of time and your bike will be there waiting for you at the station.
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i've checked both my kilo and concept as luggage in the same mercier box twice now for free but that can only happen if you're doing straight up international to international.
bubble wrap x sh*tload + a full size bike box did it for me there and back both to tokyo and rome and back.
if you're flying anything within the same continent, yea expect to pay that $50 oversized fee.

one thing you CAN do if you're trying to hack the 61cm.total.dimension thing and if allowed 2 free checked luggage is to check nothing by bike parts:
one box frame and parts only
one box wheels only
(both must be boxes you can get from lbs of exact dimensions and no bigger)
then just carryon a pair of skinny jeans and buy some walmart v-necks when you get there.

TL : DR - you're fked if you're flying within the same continent.

*EDIT:OT - fk trains (unless its bullet or japanese)
LOL! That just made my night

As for packing in two checked bags, they're $15 a piece each way IIRC so for all that trouble I'd only be saving $40. I am a little tempted to scavenge the thrift store luggage aisles for a big suitcase. As someone else said, they aren't as strict on the over size rule and I could probably make it all fit in one inconspicuous case and put all the smaller components in my carry-on.

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Take the orginal box your bike came with, Put it back in. Done deal.

When i went to korea, i paked my frame and seatpost handle bars stem in one case, And the wheelset as a carry one, Pretty much two giant boxes weigiing 12-13 pounds
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Bikes on a Plane? Make sure you don't get Snakes on a....

Sorry, I had to. I tried resisting, I really did.
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But possibly more lax on baggage fees.
Airline baggage fees cannot be made up in anyway, even with the cheapest train ticket that involves 3 transfers and 1/2 of the way by bus.... trust me; just compare with an airline like southwest and amtrak to the same location. I am dead serious.
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Airline baggage fees cannot be made up in anyway, even with the cheapest train ticket that involves 3 transfers and 1/2 of the way by bus.... trust me; just compare with an airline like southwest and amtrak to the same location. I am dead serious.
Word.

In my area, there's nothing other than a connection through ATL or HOU. Trains, no way, no how, not offered.

And back in the day, all you needed was a 20 spot and a smile to get a large bag loaded. Now it's $80-$140 one-way. Depending.

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As they said on the recorded message on the Korean Air's phone "it is very much complicated" i suggest bringing a wad of cash and be happy when you don't spend it all. my GF and i flew to Malaysia then home from Viet Nam and was charged $60 then 70 per bike, i was happy with that price. Two year ago i flew home from NYC to Seattle and was charged $100 plus at the time the was a fuel crisis so the allowed only one checked bag, grand total $135 for my bike one way.
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...That measurement is the sum of length + width + height. .....Check the oversize baggage charges of the potential airlines carefully and it wouldn't hurt to print out a copy of their rules and charges. Keep it handy at checkin just in case they try to charge you even more.
X2 - Different check in clerks will interpet thier own rules differently. Long story short, I flew a bike in a rented case on Delta about 10-years ago.

'Vegas to Albany - No Charge
Albany to 'Vegas - +$80

This resulted in an argument with Delta check-in staff that, were it post 9/11, probably would have landed me in a little room with TSA.

All I can say is: plan for the worst.
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I work part time weekends for an airline and I would never ever ship a bike in anything other than a hard sided case. Most baggage handlers are evaluated on how quickly they get your bags from the plane to the terminal and do not care how they treat your luggage. I'd like to think I work for one of the "good" ones and every time I fly anything remotely valuable or fragile comes in my carryon or I don't take it.

I'm not too familar with Alaska Air but if you're flying in the US w/ anything large/heavy I would probably go Southwest or try and ship it. With anyone else it'll probably be cheaper to ship than fly it. The airline I work for its $50 for anything oversize up to 75lbs and gets crazy expensive after that.
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