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MKRG 10-28-04 09:57 AM

I can hear the vegans squirming.

South Fulcrum 10-28-04 09:59 AM

I'm hung over and eating falafel. Not as good as pie.

SSSwede 10-28-04 10:01 AM

Well vegans wouldn´t eat any traditional farmers food:
Blood pudding
Pork pan-cake (in my oven right now)
Pork sausage with root-mash
Pigs feet
Pigs knees
However my brother-in-laws son is a vegan and he often drops by to yell at me and drink my beer and Jack Daniels.....

auk 10-28-04 10:08 AM

Cut him off from the beer and Jack....thus ends the yelling.

lucklust 10-28-04 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by skitbraviking
1) They used to use coca cola to clean ovens

True oven cleaner (that you buy at the store) has an almost identical chemical makeup to Nair. Very basic.

gilby 10-28-04 10:29 AM

I usually make the frozen pizza right on the rack (so I don't have to scrub the pan), and when I take it out of the oven I slide it right back onto the cardboard tray. If I get the small pizzas, I just crack it in half when it's cool, so I don't even dirty the pizza cutter.

SSSwede 10-28-04 10:37 AM

Actually feeding him beer and Jack ends the yelling...

57Facets 10-28-04 12:13 PM

<In the words of Haywood Banks.....YEAH TOAST!!!!!!>

Oh yeah! Haywood Banks... I especially love the "French Toast!" part.

Wahoo!

HereNT 10-28-04 01:11 PM

Cutting off the beer and jameson begins the yelling for me...

SSSwede 10-28-04 01:13 PM

Reminding of the fact that tomorrow is friday, and naught will be cut off at that time

SD Fixed 10-28-04 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by lucklust
True oven cleaner (that you buy at the store) has an almost identical chemical makeup to Nair. Very basic.

I'm half way curious as to why you know this.

trekkie820 10-28-04 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by lucklust
True oven cleaner (that you buy at the store) has an almost identical chemical makeup to Nair. Very basic.

We use oven cleaner to clean some really dirty, pitted and stained windows, and I know for a FACT that you do not want this stuff coming anywhere near your skin. We were required to wear respirators and rubber gloves, and for very good reason. This stuff feels like pepper spray on the lungs(if you breath in the mist) and it will "burn" off your top layers of skin. Even though we were supposed to wear the respirators, we often didn't. We even used it to kill bee's nests if we had no bee killer. NASTY stuff.

bombusben 10-28-04 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by trekkie820
it will "burn" off your top layers of skin.

Yup, pretty much what nair is designed to do.

SD Fixed 10-28-04 02:22 PM

IF you want some skin altering fun, try Jasco brand paint remover. Makes oven cleaner look like Avon Skin so soft.

Burnarific!!

Takes paint from ANYTHING.

bostontrevor 10-28-04 03:36 PM

Nair contains salts that interrupt some molecular bonds that hold hair together.
Oven cleaner contains caustic soda which dissolves fats and other organic crap. Non-caustic formulas use some ethers. Don't rub oven cleaner on your body, don't clean your oven with Nair.

highpants 10-28-04 03:53 PM

i don't know if it's too late to revisit that whole smashed bread scenarion, but i just wanted to say that if you buy real bread (you know, the kind with the short ingredients list made up of words you recognize and know how to pronounce and lacking any words that end in "-60"), you probably couldn't smash it thin like that and would therefore eliminate your fire problem. plus you'd probably feel better. because you'd be a bread snob. like me.

highpants 10-28-04 03:54 PM

woops. scenarion.

hammye 10-28-04 04:11 PM

Are you Alton Brown or something?
Funny thing is that I thought the same thing when I saw the first post.

gilby 10-28-04 04:15 PM

That's the problem with real bread, though. Doesn't a wafer-thin piece of toast sound better? Oh, the virtues of Wonderbread....You can form it into a doughy breadball, and it seems to last for weeks without getting moldy, and Velveeta simply tastes better against the smooth texture of Wonderbread.

lucklust 10-28-04 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by bostontrevor
Nair contains salts that interrupt some molecular bonds that hold hair together.
Oven cleaner contains caustic soda which dissolves fats and other organic crap. Non-caustic formulas use some ethers. Don't rub oven cleaner on your body, don't clean your oven with Nair.

Depilatories work by breaking down hair with a high pH substance such as sodium thioglycolate or calcium thioglycolate - which reacts with the protein structure of hair. Oven cleaners and drain cleaners are typically ~1.5% sodium thioglycolate by mass.

WorldWind 10-28-04 04:35 PM

toast..... hair..... umm


I like French Toast with blue berries

bostontrevor 10-28-04 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by lucklust
Depilatories work by breaking down hair with a high pH substance such as sodium thioglycolate or calcium thioglycolate - which reacts with the protein structure of hair. Oven cleaners and drain cleaners are typically ~1.5% sodium thioglycolate by mass.

Nope, the active ingredient in oven cleaner is sodium hydroxide, caustic soda, lye. That's the active ingredient.

You're correct about the Nair, but oven cleaner doesn't contain thioglycolates (or if it does, it's not the primary mechanism by which it works). Nair *does* contain calcium hydroxide, but that will be substantially less reactive than sodium hydroxide and is also present in much lower concentrations than the sodium hydroxide in oven cleaner.

Bottom line: the mechanism by which they work maybe similar, but just as using a 2.4GHz phone or WiFi card is not the same as sticking a microwave oven over your head, Nair is not the same as oven cleaner. Don't mix and match kids.

bostontrevor 10-28-04 05:50 PM

Actually, I think I have my reactivity backwards. Down and left is more reactive than up or right (on the periodic table). Though Calcium is below Sodium, Sodium is to the left of Calcium. It's been too long since I've done chemistry and ionic bonds, so I can't actually figure it out for sure anymore.

Still, the concentrations are quite different. Soap is also made from lye (or at least used to be), but that's also not the same as oven cleaner though it too works similarly.

jitensha! 10-28-04 06:12 PM

i like toast. i used to use Nair on my head when i kept it shaved. i should start doing that again. i look better bald.

ryan_c 10-28-04 07:00 PM

Lower and more left is the stronger cation, up and right is the stronger anion (theoretically flourine, but its generally impractical or impossible to use flourine in a reactive ionic compound).
...IIRC. It's also been a white since inorganic chem. Organic is a bit fresher.

icithecat 10-28-04 09:21 PM

Back to the toast.
You could toast the bread normally, then place it on the seat of your 'fixed gear or single speed' bicycle and squash it wafer thin by sitting on it.

PS. You could probably sell it for a fortune on this forum of bicycle seat sniffers.

Am I banned yet?

trystero 10-29-04 01:11 AM

On kitchen mishaps...

Don't use your mother's coffee grinder to mince garlic. She'll get pissed. My brother made this error, not me. I like to think I'm more bright than that. Instead, I would do things like fill the (aluminum) saucer sled with lighter fluid and throw matches at it (and when realizing that this was dangerous, I'd open the garage door and kick the sled into the driveway). Fortunately mom never used the garage, so she never saw the big black spot on the ceiling. IT takes a bright kid to do dumb things where mom will never look.

On a side note…

How do you people find the time to read all of these discussions? I’m not just talking about bikeforums in general (I gave up on that the day after I joined), but just the ss/fg threads. I realize that not doing dishes might save you a bit of time, but still, there’s a lot o’ words in here.

HereNT 10-29-04 01:17 AM

I read fast. I type fast. I bike fast.

I find time to read a lot of the blogs as well...

Oh, and there's the avoiding getting any work done at work thing by surfing bike forums... The 'view new posts' link helps, too.

Raiyn 10-29-04 01:26 AM


Originally Posted by Moonshot
Cuban pressed sandwiches are the bomb! If you get a chance to try one.

Fo shizzle! Luckily for me I live in the Tampa Bay area - home to the original and the best Cubans out there. http://www.peanut.org/users/mike/text/Cubansan.htm

Although the earlier post about the grilled cheese got me thinking. I make a what I call a "Ghetto Cheese" sandwich. This little snack served me well when I was poor and didn't cook or wash dishes much.

Make two slices of toast, add two American cheese singles put in the microwave for about 23 seconds (until the cheese just starts oozing out the sides) open the microwave and eat. No dishes, no mess, and without excess grease.

HereNT 10-29-04 01:29 AM

Never american cheese. That's not cheese.


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