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Is there really any plus to riding a fix over a SS?

Old 04-06-11, 09:48 PM
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Is there really any plus to riding a fix over a SS?

opinions please.
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Old 04-06-11, 09:51 PM
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something about the bike becoming an extension of your body and zen or whatnot.

Oh, and we judge you for riding SS

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just try it out for yourself
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I don't even know what the point is in riding SS. Either get gears or ride fixed, imo.

But to answer your question, read this: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/fixed.html
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More control over the bike
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Originally Posted by plowmanjoe
just try it out for yourself
been. for almost 3 weeks
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Originally Posted by Yoshiyuki
opinions please.
No. There is no advantage. It's just different.

Honestly, the cons outweigh the pros. The biggest cons being:
- Can't coast down hills
- Can't coast when tired
- Must use legs for acceleration AND deceleration (even if you use a front brake).

Those 3 things make traveling more difficult on a machine that was originally designed to make traveling easier.

(I'm not trying to pick a fight. I'm just answering the OP's question.)
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Originally Posted by carleton
Those 3 things make traveling more difficult on a machine that was originally designed to make traveling easier.
thats the answer.
some ppl like doing things the hard way.
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i remember this argument in here years ago and someone claiming that a fixed wheel grips better in slippery conditions, i don't know how true it exactly is but it seems to make a lot of sense, i feel safer riding downhill when slippery on a fixed gear over something with a freewheel, disk brakes might change that thought but i don't think they're as good as a constantly driven wheel in terms of maintaining grip
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Originally Posted by carleton
No. There is no advantage. It's just different.

Honestly, the cons outweigh the pros. The biggest cons being:
- Can't coast down hills
- Can't coast when tired
- Must use legs for acceleration AND deceleration (even if you use a front brake).

Those 3 things make traveling more difficult on a machine that was originally designed to make traveling easier.

(I'm not trying to pick a fight. I'm just answering the OP's question.)
this is what i was looking for
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those "cons" can also be called pros for those of us that lack endless miles of open roads on which to ride and stay fit
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The members that frequent this section may crucify me, but I'm really starting to go away from FG after riding it for about a year. The main reason I got into it was for the traction/reduced maintenance benefits for snowy riding. But now I have an SS MTB and I think I like it better than the FG. I also have had fixed "road" bikes and miss the ability to coast, especially down hills.

My complaints are exactly what carleton mentioned, plus one: it's much harder for me to hop curbs, go off jumps, etc fixed gear.
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Originally Posted by Yoshiyuki
this is what i was looking for
"- Can't coast down hills
- Can't coast when tired
- Must use legs for acceleration AND deceleration (even if you use a front brake)."

ya the first two suck but the last one is the one i wanna talk about. i've always ridden fg (except when i have gears) and i rode ss for the first time ever four days ago running only one break and it is scary without a rear brake. i like the control of using my legs to decelerate (i run a front brake as well).

i'm also one of the people who thinks that if you want to coast you should be on a road bike... to be on one speed is challenging, so let's add to the challenge and make it fixed, etc... other "pros" to fixed is you can skid, skid stop, trackstand, etc, but i don't do any of those things. so that's adding even more difficulty.

a pro for me is it raised my cadence when i got on the road bike. it's good training, i guess.
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Old 04-06-11, 11:39 PM
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you know what's better training?

riding your road bike like you mean it. what's keeping you from raising your cadence and hardening the **** up on your road bike? that's far better training.
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I was initially interested in SS more than FG, but I figured I might as well try FG if I'm going for one speed at all. I've ridden a single speed and to be honest it's just not as fun. I like having the slow-speed control, and the different approach to road and urban cycling in general is more fun for me than a freewheel. To top it off, I love spinning, and I don't mind going downhill like that. Before I was on a FG, I was doing spin at gyms. It made sense to just start doing that on the road and looking at some real scenery.
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Carleton is right on all the cons of riding FG. However, those cons turn into a kind of pros if one is looking for simplicity, reliability, lower maintenance costs over the life of the bicycle and a harder workout than riding SS.

I have had multiple geared bikes. My stable includes kickscooters, geared electric-assist cargo bikes, ultra portable folding bikes, single speed beam suspension bikes to cro-mo fixed gear. The harder workout would be with a FG since your legs can't ever stop moving while the bike is in motion. You either like this or you don't.

For me, both SS and FG trump the riding experience of gears. I consider myself safer riding SS\FG as I am less distracted on the road and pay more attention to traffic than fiddling with gears. No, I will never be as fast as an equal rider on a geared bike since they will have more mechanical advantage options than I do, but I am faster than the average person on a bicycle. I ride to exercise and to find my personal limits. I ride for transportation.
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Originally Posted by carleton
No. There is no advantage. It's just different.

Honestly, the cons are about equal to the pros. The biggest pros being:
- Can't coast down hills
- Can't coast when tired
- Must use legs for acceleration AND deceleration (even if you use a front brake).

Those 3 things make traveling more difficult on a machine that was originally designed to make traveling easier.

(I'm not trying to pick a fight. I'm just answering the OP's question.)
FTFY
What he's trying to say is that it's a much better work out.

Another pro is it makes riding a bike feel like a fun new experience for a bit again. And after you go back to a freewheel for a bit, what do yah know?!, that feels like new again as well! Not to mention when you jump back on the gears after riding fixed for a while, you can mash like a mofo!
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Originally Posted by pylea
I don't even know what the point is in riding SS. Either get gears or ride fixed, imo.
I want to make a SS grocery bike. Why would I make it fixed? I just want one gear and have the ability to take it easy and coast. Not fixed
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Originally Posted by hairnet
I want to make a SS grocery bike. Why would I make it fixed? I just want one gear and have the ability to take it easy and coast. Not fixed
i have my cx bike set up ss for grocery runs and i disagree. no reason not to have gears other than theft and trauma resilience. take it easy and not have to sacrifice the ability to get up hills.

gears.

oh my god, gears.

these gears are three hundred dollars.
let's get em!
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You can ditch the rear brake.
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"been. for almost 3 weeks"

I rode SS a couple of times. Once I tried riding fixed, it took me less than a minute to decide that I enjoyed it far more than riding SS. That's the "plus" for me.
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You get to crash more on FG. ( ...for various reasons from : Not being able to stop, to mech issues / stoping too fast. : o) )
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I have a serious debate with myself sometimes.
The last time was when I was riding 60 miles back from San Bernadino on a 19/48, ankles, legs, knees all killing me around 3am saying "damn, It'd be gangster if I could just pedal this pace yet be going 5 MPH faster...or just stop pedaling"
Then I ride my bike when I'm not completely exhausted and don't really care.
I like fixed gears for several reasons.
Simplicity. I doubt I could tune an STI system but I put my own fixed gear bike together relatively easily.
Aesthetics - I really like the simplicity of them. Especially without brakes.
feedback feels great. I love the sound my bike makes when I start pushing hard. I love the sound my chain makes when it cuts through the wind.
That being said. At some point I'm getting a touring bike. I want gears, I want to be fast and I want to go far. I can that fixed, or I can enjoy the ride for what it is and do that geared.
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