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Need help Identifying this frame.

whats up everyone.. this is my first post here.. im new to the whole single speed/fixie scene. i just picked up a frame for free and the guy told me it was a miyata frame or a sakai frame not sure the difference. anyways i have searched for a miyata and sakai serial number data base. but no luck. so i figure now ill ask everyone here

the frame is a 53cm frame and the serial number

reads: Y0L8133

if anyone knows what make the bike is by the serial number let me know
thanks

Haha I knew that was coming.. Yea I took
Some pics o the frame today as I'm painting it. I'll load them and post them later on

C&V forum might be more helpful too, but they don't take too kindly to conversions.

heres the serial number
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...f/SAM_0307.jpg

and a few before and after primer today
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...f/SAM_0270.jpg

i covered up the dents also with bondo
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...f/SAM_0305.jpg

perhaps a Centurion frame...the format of the serial matches it

Quote:

Centurions (except the Cinelli\Centurion) have serial numbers on the underside of the bottom bracket shell. One way to date a Centurion is to try to find date codes on the bike's components.
Centurion models manufactured in Japan between 1980-1990 use a serial number format WXYZZZZ with:
W = a letter, purpose uncertain, possibly indicates a manufacturer or Centurion; X = a number, indicating the calendar year of manufacture; Y = a letter, indicating the fortnight of manufacture (A = wk 1 & 2, B = wk 3 & 4, etc.) ZZZZ = four digit number, probably indicating frame number during fortnight of manufacture.
N4E0283, as an example, would indicate this is the 283rd frame made during the period of weeks 9-10 in 1984. Barring a major components upgrade at some point in a bike's history, one can confirm a bike's age by the dates found on the majority of components in its groupset."

look here http://www.sheldonbrown.com/centurion/index.html