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familyman 11-05-04 07:19 AM

Off with her brakes!
 
I haven't ridden my bike in a month and I'm totally depressed about it. I can only ride on the weekends and first it rained stupidly hard all weekend then I HAD to work on the house all weekend because the next weekend my in-laws were coming so all of a sudden I haven't touched the poor beast in a month. So yesterday I pulled the Kogswell out and started pulling the bar tape to fix a little un-wrapping problem. Once I got the tape off I decided to go whole hog and pulled off both brakes and the computer and everything I could find that the bike didn't NEED. Not a huge pile of parts but with most of the weight coming from right over the front wheel the feel of the bike has totally changed. And I like it a lot. I haven't used the brakes for a while anyway, I just kept them on there for riding with a geared friend on the weekend to prevent idiot pileups. Since he decided to not bike anymore I don't have that restriction so come saturday I'm off. Looking forward to just riding.

HereNT 11-05-04 07:22 AM

Congrats!

stevo 11-05-04 07:27 AM

1/8 pound and braggin rights isnt worth it for a family man. My humble opinion.

peace...

familyman 11-05-04 07:47 AM

It's not about the style or the weight. Those are consequences of the action, not the reason for it.

Shiznaz 11-05-04 08:06 AM

It's all about the Benjamins, baby.

FixinInTraffic 11-05-04 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by Shiznaz
It's all about the Benjamins, baby.

Saving money on not having brakes?

kurremkarm 11-05-04 09:55 AM

I think a front brake is a nice compromise.

46x17 11-05-04 11:10 AM

Okay, here are my thoughts:
I believe that when you ride brakeless you ride more cautious and are more aware of your surroundings. You know that you can't stop as fast. Consequentially you also ride a lot slower, especially down hills (SF has many).
With a brake you can stop a lot faster, therefore you can ride a lot faster, especially down hills.
I do NOT believe that that riding brakeless is more dangerous than riding with a brake. I rode both. It evens out. If my city was flat the brake would be unnecessary. Currently the brake is back on - seems more practical because I like to go faster down the hill than up the hill.
However, in terms of style, I agree the brake sucks! It is ugly, it ruins the looks.
Further I believe the whole panic stop argument is nonsense, especially with only a front brake. How often do you panic stop? Last time I did it it was too late and I hit the door anyway and that was with two brakes.

ostro 11-05-04 11:17 AM

I agree the brake can look ugly, but if you do it just right, you can make it look classy and then you got form and function.

roadfix 11-05-04 11:22 AM

I have a front brake because I can't think ahead.

46x17 11-05-04 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by ostro
I agree the brake can look ugly, but if you do it just right, you can make it look classy and then you got form and function.

Show me a classy front brake. I have never seen one.

stevo 11-05-04 11:32 AM

I know the standard 'you pay more attention' argument. Even if i were to buy into it, there are certainly those times where you simply arent payiing enough attention, or you were but you didnt have a safe option out. The pure number of people in this forum who have detailed hitting doors, parked cars, or the pavement are evidence of that.

I dont care if you (or anyone else) do or do not ride brakeless; I do think parental responsibility should be a factor in one's personal decision though; not blind acceptance of the standard justifications.

stevo 11-05-04 11:34 AM

"Show me a classy front brake. I have never seen one."

The one that doesnt exist.

stevo 11-05-04 11:35 AM

"I have a front brake because I can't think ahead."

I have a front brake because I CAN think ahead.

*new*guy 11-05-04 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by stevo
I know the standard 'you pay more attention' argument. Even if i were to buy into it, there are certainly those times where you simply arent payiing enough attention, or you were but you didnt have a safe option out. The pure number of people in this forum who have detailed hitting doors, parked cars, or the pavement are evidence of that.

I dont care if you (or anyone else) do or do not ride brakeless; I do think parental responsibility should be a factor in one's personal decision though; not blind acceptance of the standard justifications.

perhaps he's not really a family man... maybe when he registered, he wanted to let everyone know that he loves the FamilyGuy but that name was taken so he went with Familyman. Now that I think of it, his dog Brian rides a brakeless (not chrome!!!) Pista.

stevo 11-05-04 11:53 AM

no offense to familyman (specifically) or FamilyGuy fans (in general) intended...

karmical 11-05-04 12:14 PM

if i was into sobriety...i'd be into riding brakeless...

lucklust 11-05-04 12:20 PM

This again?

arcellus 11-05-04 12:26 PM

another style argument.... *sigh* it's all just personal preference, folks. let's not get started on helmets now.

kurremkarm 11-05-04 12:45 PM

I use two brakes and a helmet. What someone else does is their choice.

familyman 11-05-04 01:11 PM

I am indeed a dad. Of two. That's why I don't ride a motorcycle, skydive, scubadive, or play with fire. I ride in a place that's completely flat, rural, and the roads are absolutely straight. Traffic is light and the shoulders are 6 feet wide. I'm comfortable with my level of risk.
My point though was about the bike. It really feels different and I didn't expect it. Two levers, brakes and cables weigh about a pound or so. Not something I can notice when I pick the bike up, but definatley noticeable when I ride. It's just different. I can see now why people who are used to no brake think bikes feel weird with brakes on it. I might put brakes back on, we'll see. The brakes I just took off are going on my Pinarello pursuit bike.

dirtydan 11-05-04 01:38 PM

brake or no brake, when i ride its fun.

ostro 11-05-04 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by 46x17
Show me a classy front brake. I have never seen one.


So i guess you are right. It does make it look like the bike is wearing head gear.

bostontrevor 11-05-04 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by 46x17
Show me a classy front brake. I have never seen one.

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2004/f/thomas.htm

You might disagree. Me, I think it's flair when that cable whips up like that. It's an accent on the solid sleek lines of the bike. I can appreciate 'em both ways. (incidentally, I tend to think that aero routed cables are not so sexy--though my own dropbar brake is an aerobrake)

Obviously you may disagree.

shiftlessbast- 11-05-04 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by bostontrevor
http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2004/f/thomas.htm

You might disagree. Me, I think it's flair when that cable whips up like that. It's an accent on the solid sleek lines of the bike. I can appreciate 'em both ways. (incidentally, I tend to think that aero routed cables are not so sexy--though my own dropbar brake is an aerobrake)

Obviously you may disagree.

Yeah, I can see what you're getting at, sort of a finial. BUT, the dummy-lever is a no-go in my book: its aesthetic shortcomings far outstrip its meager functionality. Slavish devotion to symmetry is riccockulous.


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