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SS/FG has less moving parts, less to maintain or go bad or out of adjustment. I've put ~1000 miles on mine with zero maintenance beyond cleaning/lubing the chain, and I've only done that a couple times. Cleaning a cog or single freewheel is considerably easier than cleaning a 10x cassette, and the same for a single chainring vs. a 3x.
Wheel for wheel, spoke for spoke, a non-dished configuration is stronger than a dished. SS/FG chains are thicker, stronger, last longer. SS/FG has a more efficient chain line. Riding a SS/FG demands that you become a stronger, more efficient rider as compared to riding a geared bike. Works for me... |
Originally Posted by on the path
(Post 12835127)
Riding a SS/FG demands that you become a stronger, more efficient rider as compared to riding a geared bike.
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For me, riding FG is liberating. It's limitation is a self-embraced choice for expression within a single gear. I feel powerful on an FG. On the road, I keep up with my friends on $5000 bikes and drop them on the hills. Riding FG makes me a stronger, better rider.
Simplicity is a value and aesthetic I cherish. Yes, gears are more mechanically efficient. But with my 1/8 chain, 1/8 chainring and 1/8 cog, my drivetrain is gonna last longer than an ultra narrow chain and cassette. Unless I am riding with geared people going 9/10 to 10/10ths, they are not faster than me anyways. On FG, I am fast enough. Lastly, I am happier riding FG than other forms of cycling. I will not presume to preach to anyone, but if they ask, I share my love for FG. |
Originally Posted by on the path
(Post 12835127)
Riding a SS/FG demands that you become a stronger, more efficient rider as compared to riding a geared bike.
i want to build up a bike around an internally geared hub to get the sexy look of a single speed chain but still have a few speeds to choose from |
Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
(Post 12834821)
Boxers or briefs ? I gotta know, man.
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Originally Posted by Higher Class
(Post 12834988)
I have a geared bike for distance, recreation, and fitness riding, and a fixed gear bike for riding to work. Tune-ups are expensive for us common folk. Yeah yeah I can tune it myself, but I can't dial it in like a shop can. Fixed gears take less maintenance, and thus are better for short distance rides around town. Now, why do people ride long distance on fixed gears? I dunno, to be badass? So you can worry less about parts failing? Maybe people enjoy the challenge of getting from point A to point B by the power of their own legs without the assistance of derailleurs. What's wrong with personal preference?
Someone EDUCATE me on why RASPBERRY jelly is better than GRAPE. When I'm with my friends at a group PB&J and someone brings RASPBERRY everyone makes a big stink about it, I'm like so what? |
It's fun!
I live in the Ozarks. It's ungodly hilly here, and I've found the SS conversion is faster than the original 10 speed because I'm not waiting on the cludgy shifting. If I travel, I can throw the bike in the back of my car with the chain on and not worry about it getting hooked on anything. Instead of trying to hit the right gear, it's more about spinning/stomping to carry momentum downhill and getting up the next hill. As for weight, my other regular ride is a 45+lb. 3 speed so a 23-ish lb. bike boom frame feels like nothing. I'm starting work on a more practical granny-geared bike, but I'll still take my SS out when I want to go for a quick spin. I think most of us have multiple bikes, so it's just another option. |
Originally Posted by sillygolem
(Post 12835661)
It's fun!
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Originally Posted by YokeyDokey
(Post 12835725)
You know what? That's a pretty good reason!
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I got my SS because I enjoy riding off-road on fire-roads and some single track. With SS I don't need to worrry about shifting. My only concern is the path I take and how hard or fast I pedal. It allows me to ride fast as I must keep up momentum for the hills and stand up and mash if I lose that momentum.
It requires less maintenance and keeps my legs in better shape than my geared mountain bike. |
Originally Posted by YokeyDokey
(Post 12834677)
yeah but yeah but... you have half a dozen bikes and the rest of them have 27 speeds. The SSs I see are steel frames, 20+ pounds... my multi-speed road bike is lighter. You still haven't educated me...
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Until you try it, the reasons for SS/FG are not really comprehensable. Sure, it's less maintenence, more efficient (arguable), quieter (arguable), but the real reason is that its just more fun. There's just something visceral about getting there without having to shift gears. SS frees your mind up to enjoy things besides the bike.
I did a cheap SS conversion on my old mtn. bike last summer as well as build up a light, fast, expensive, carbon roadbike. If I had done the SS conversion first, there wouldn't be a roadbike in my stable. I put more miles on my SS over the last year than my other two bikes combined. That incudes recreation as well as commuting. The added bennefit in my case is that is has definately made me a better cyclist. |
Originally Posted by Breathegood
(Post 12836807)
SS frees your mind up to enjoy things besides the bike.
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Originally Posted by frantik
(Post 12836879)
some of you guys talk about shifting like it's rocket science or something :lol:
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Originally Posted by YokeyDokey
(Post 12834677)
yeah but yeah but... you have half a dozen bikes and the rest of them have 27 speeds. The SSs I see are steel frames, 20+ pounds... my multi-speed road bike is lighter. You still haven't educated me...
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Originally Posted by EssEllSee
(Post 12834753)
I cant vouche for single speed, but fixed gives you a certain amount of control that I could never achieve from a geared bike.
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
(Post 12834821)
Boxers or briefs ? I gotta know, man.
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Originally Posted by YokeyDokey
(Post 12834677)
yeah but yeah but... you have half a dozen bikes and the rest of them have 27 speeds. The SSs I see are steel frames, 20+ pounds... my multi-speed road bike is lighter. You still haven't educated me...
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Originally Posted by Breathegood
(Post 12836807)
SS frees your mind up to enjoy things besides the bike.
Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
(Post 12837517)
issues with brake response with all the water
Originally Posted by Breathegood
(Post 12836807)
the real reason is that its just more fun... The added bennefit in my case is that is has definately made me a better cyclist.
Originally Posted by mconlonx
(Post 12836356)
Have fun.
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I have 2 functional bikes at the moment, one is a fixed gear, the other is a singlespeed. I enjoy my fixed gear more than my singlespeed and prefer both of them to any geared bike that I have ever owned. I just enjoy simplicity.
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Originally Posted by Elkhound
(Post 12834866)
SS is fine if you live somewhere flat as a pancake. WV is called 'the Mountain State' for good reason.
Originally Posted by EssEllSee
(Post 12834895)
Run a lower gear ratio. Hills shouldn't stop you.
Seattle is far from flat, and I do a decent amount of time riding in the Cascade foothills and mountains. If you pick the right gearing, you should be fine. Heck, people race the Cannonball!, S2S, and the GRR-1200 on singles and fixed bikes. OK, so the GRR isn't a race; but you get the point. |
Originally Posted by Infidel79
(Post 12837412)
I don't think that's the point, at least not for me. I find that when I'm on my geared bike (on the road, at least), I'm frequently up- or downshifting one cog at a time...usually back and forth between 2 or 3 cogs...slight upgrade, click down a gear, downhill, click up 1 or 2. Point being, with a geared bike, and thus available options, I'm often in a "grass is greener in the other gear" mode of thought, never wholly satisfied with my current combo. On the SS, none of that even factors in. I just ride.
I just picked up a Hardrock mtb that i saw had horizontal drop outs and i was like sweet i can SS it.. but when i pulled out the wheel it had "fake out" drops lol.. there's some metal in the middle of the drop so it's kinda like a vertical drop.. bastards |
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