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thecezar 07-23-11 01:50 AM

difference between fixed gear wheel and singlespeed wheel
 
Hey! I just wanted to know what the difference is between a fixed gear hub and a singlespeed hub. I wanted to know cause i'm trying to find either a fixed gear rear wheel or one with a flip flop hub.

Leukybear 07-23-11 02:20 AM

WELL HEY BACK TO YOU! Freewheel or single speed is where you can idle your feet. Fixed is where you can't, meaning your feet are always moving along with the crank and pedal as it revolves.

Don't get a flip flop hub; get a fixed/ fixed hub if you can/ willing to pay a little extra. You can put a freewheel on both sides and a cog and lockring on both sides as well. Also provides some insurance if you happen to accidentally strip one side on accident.

TheBikeRollsOn 07-23-11 02:25 AM

The hub is essentially the same, except the threading, what's different is what goes on the hub. On a singlespeed there is a freewheel mounted on the hub, which allows the rider to coast or pedals backwards without stopping the bike. With a fixed gear, there is a fixed cog screwed on the hub with a lockring holding it in place. This means that is the back wheel is moving then the pedals are moving, hence the term "fixed gear", no coasting.

Kayce 07-23-11 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by Leukybear (Post 12973309)
WELL HEY BACK TO YOU! Freewheel or single speed is where you can idle your feet. Fixed is where you can't, meaning your feet are always moving along with the crank and pedal as it revolves.

Don't get a flip flop hub; get a fixed/ fixed hub if you can/ willing to pay a little extra. You can put a freewheel on both sides and a cog and lockring on both sides as well. Also provides some insurance if you happen to accidentally strip one side on accident.

A fixed/ fixed hub is a flip flop hub.

But you are right a fixed/fixed style hub is more pracitcal than a fixed/ free style hub. On a fix/fixed you can run a fixed cog and lockring or a freewheel on either side. But on a fixed/ free you can run a freewheel on either side, and a fixed cog and lockring on only the one side.

Leukybear 07-23-11 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Kayce (Post 12974054)
A fixed/ fixed hub is a flip flop hub.

Well not exactly in a retail sense, but you do make a point in technically. However with the latter being much more true.

That being said, note that if you go to a LBS that knows it's SS/FG vocabulary, and you ask for a "flip flop hub" they're most likely going to pull out a hub that's threaded specially for a freewheel on one side and for a cog/ lockring on the other. The same is also true for google/ many web stores when you search for it. So, you'll have to specially ask/ search for a fixed/ fixed hub if you want one.

Leukybear 07-23-11 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 12974531)
It's not even your bike.

You don't know me at all. Don't worry about it.

What you can know however is, your attempt at lagging/ spamming me are thwarted by a intel core i7 system with 12gb's of ram paired with a 1080p screen. With that said, give up bro.

redpear 07-23-11 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by Leukybear (Post 12974581)
You don't know me at all. Don't worry about it.

What you can know however is, your attempt at lagging/ spamming me are thwarted by a intel core i7 system with 12gb's of ram paired with a 1080p screen. With that said, give up bro.

All talk which becomes useless if you have a poor internet connection.

TheBikeRollsOn 07-23-11 11:46 AM

I don't think he was trying to make you lag, instead I believe he was proving a point that it's annoying to scroll past your bulky signature that slows load time, especially in threads that you post a lot in. All for some image that you don't have a personal relationship with.

Also, not everyone has a $5,000 computer, for those of us browsing on netbooks with small screens and slower processors or older pcs, your signature can really slow things down/take up space.

TejanoTrackie 07-23-11 11:52 AM

Is there a difference between a flip-flop hub and a flop-flip hub ? Or, how about a flip-flip hub as opposed to a flop-flop hub ? Who really shot JR in the last episode of Dallas ? What is better, tortillas de maiz or de trigo ?

Leukybear 07-23-11 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by TheBikeRollsOn (Post 12974606)
Also, not everyone has a $5,000 computer,


Originally Posted by redpear (Post 12974595)
All talk which becomes useless if you have a poor internet connection.

These don't make any sense put together.
Nonetheless if your guy's computers are hurting from it; I'm taking it off.


Originally Posted by TheBikeRollsOn (Post 12974606)
All for some image that you don't have a personal relationship with.

Now you can't say this exactly. Nonetheless it doesn't matter now that I took it off.


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 12974631)
Is there a difference between a flip-flop hub and a flop-flip hub ? Or, how about a flip-flip hub as opposed to a flop-flop hub ?

The latter 2 are square.

TheBikeRollsOn 07-23-11 12:01 PM

Thanks, I'm sure there will be many who appreciate it besides me. Although, it is a cool image, but it gets old seeing it 100 times everytime I browse BF.

Kayce 07-23-11 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by Leukybear (Post 12974527)
Well not exactly in a retail sense, but you do make a point in technically. However with the latter being much more true.

What do you mean in a retail sense? A quick browsing of my favorite online retailers has shown no one even uses the term flip flop hub, I assume because it can be confusing. Every one just uses fixed/ fixed, fixed/ free, etc.

redpear 07-23-11 01:13 PM

Oh you are rather pedantic, aren't you?

The point is, the term flip-flop hub is very commonly used to refer to a fixed/free hub, which is less useful than a fixed/fixed hub.

Leukybear 07-23-11 01:15 PM

I already explained it in that post you quoted.

Nonetheless I don't want to go into the disambiguation of a hub termed that name anymore oof.

Ro100proof 07-23-11 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 12974631)
Is there a difference between a flip-flop hub and a flop-flip hub ? Or, how about a flip-flip hub as opposed to a flop-flop hub ? Who really shot JR in the last episode of Dallas ? What is better, tortillas de maiz or de trigo ?

LOL LOL LFMAO!!!!! Good *****

Ro100proof 07-23-11 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 12974631)
Is there a difference between a flip-flop hub and a flop-flip hub ? Or, how about a flip-flip hub as opposed to a flop-flop hub ? Who really shot JR in the last episode of Dallas ? What is better, tortillas de maiz or de trigo ?

LOL LOL LFMAO!!!!! Good *****

carleton 07-23-11 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by Leukybear (Post 12974581)
You don't know me at all. Don't worry about it.

What you can know however is, your attempt at lagging/ spamming me are thwarted by a intel core i7 system with 12gb's of ram paired with a 1080p screen. With that said, give up bro.


I have a MacBook Pro. I don't know what's in it. It eats animated gifs like tic tacs.

The problem is that you think we all like seeing your large-ish animated gif under every one of your 3,900 posts. It's rather annoying.

thecezar 07-23-11 04:44 PM

Can you guys direct me somewhere I can see what the hub for fixed gears actually look like?

Kayce 07-23-11 04:50 PM

http://wiseracer.com/images/FormulaT..._FixedFree.jpg

I know its a big image, Its for a reason.

The left side of this hub is what we have all been refering to as a fixed side, or fixed hub. The outside part is smaller and reverse threaded then the inner part so that a lockring can be threaded on. A freewheel can be threaded on that side too.

The right right side is the free side. Since it doesnt have the stepped down part it can only take a freewheel, making it less useful.

This is a formula hub, they will be all you ever need. They make a variety of holes, and have a fixed/fixed, fixed/free and single sided hubs. Definatly the right choice.

redpear 07-23-11 04:53 PM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3367/...24ccc19093.jpg

Here's an image I found on Google. Right side is threaded fixed. Notice how there are two sets of threads. The bottom is for the cog, it is standard right-hand threads. The smaller threads are for the lockring.

Left side is for a freewheel. One set of threads.


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