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bostontrevor 11-27-04 09:18 PM

Anyone with a 17t cog does. 17 is a prime number, so it's always going to be relatively prime to a given chainring (except those that are even multiples of 17: 17, 34, 51, 68, etc). :)

habitus 11-27-04 09:30 PM

this whole prime number deal is probably one of the most important facts for those thinking of riding brakeless. however, i certainly did not think about this very much when i learned how to skid. those that shred their tires every couple of months need to know this stuff.

this knowledge needs to be disseminated!

jordache 11-27-04 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by nocoins
What do you mean by "regular pedals"? I have clips and straps on my fixie (because I use it everyday and like to wear regular shoes) and I can skid just fine. I was riding with a bunch of other fixie riders last night and they said that it is EASIER for them to skid with clipless pedals because there is less of a "stretch" to the straps. but since I have always had clips and straps I really dont know the difference. I dont have a problem skidding with clips and straps. If you are talking about flats though, I know its POSSIBLE but difficult since you would have to put a lot DOWN on the pedals.

I guess I should have specified. Regular pedals refers to pedals with clips and straps. I was also refering to skipping, and not skidding. I used to ride my bike with platforms, and skidding is quite possible, but skipping requires that you unweight the back wheel and lift it off the ground, which is something I can only do with the use of clipless pedals. I was hoping that maybe I wasn't skipping properly, but only lifting the back wheel up and putting it back to the ground when I rode with clipless, and that there is a bit more technique I'm missing that would allow it to be done with clips and straps.

mcahill844 11-28-04 10:51 AM

I was thinking about this analysis. It seems to indicate that if you have a rear cog that has a prime number of teeth (13,17,19) there will be no lower common denominator. You will always get the same number of skid patches as the number of teeth on the cog no matter what chainring you select.

mcahill844 11-28-04 10:53 AM

Oops, I posted the last message before reading the rest of the thread. Someone already figured out what I just said.

habitus 11-28-04 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by mcahill844
I was thinking about this analysis. It seems to indicate that if you have a rear cog that has a prime number of teeth (13,17,19) there will be no lower common denominator. You will always get the same number of skid patches as the number of teeth on the cog no matter what chainring you select.

unless the number of teeth on the chainring is a multiple of the number of teeth on your cog (e.g., 51x17), as bostontrevor has stated.

junioroverlord 11-28-04 11:57 AM

math makes my head hurt

Yuppie 01-16-05 10:15 AM

So I found this thread recently and decided to hack together a script that will calculate this sort of thing. I can't publish it though because my comcast account does no support PHP files. Does anyone have PHP support? Wanna publish it?

Found a free host.
http://xjeffx.freeownhost.com/

adamkell 01-16-05 04:11 PM

well done

crust & crumb 01-16-05 04:29 PM

bravo


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