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nick hanson 08-25-11 01:23 PM

48 tooth gearing?
 
i am currently running 48/17 and it is just a bit too low for me. I am looking for a good cog size that would give me some speed with a low cadence while keeping my same chainring. any help would be appreciated. thanks!

cbresciani 08-25-11 01:29 PM

The only way to get some speed with a low cadence would be to go even smaller than your 17, but you say that the 17 is a bit to low. So your post is somewhat confusing.

spazzkid 08-25-11 01:32 PM

maybe using a smaller cog would be a good option: 16 or 15T. 48x16 looks like a happy medium to most people.

nick hanson 08-25-11 01:37 PM

the ratio itself is low, the cadence is too high for me. especially mobbing down big hills.

nick hanson 08-25-11 01:40 PM

do you think a 15t would make it impossible for hill climbing? I normally ride flat and downhill but i have to climb hills once in a while.

Kinkikowboi 08-25-11 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by nick hanson (Post 13131923)
do you think a 15t would make it impossible for hill climbing? I normally ride flat and downhill but i have to climb hills once in a while.

depends on the slope of the hill. you won't know until you try

cbresciani 08-25-11 01:48 PM

A 48/15 will give you 84.2 gear inches if you are running a 700x23c wheel. At 90 rpm you could ride at 22.5 mph. Any moderate or steep hills at that big of a gear would be hard to push. IMO

stryper 08-25-11 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by nick hanson (Post 13131897)
the ratio itself is low, the cadence is too high for me. especially mobbing down big hills.

You should be able to hold 27-30mph going down hill on that ratio. Really it's not low at all. And you won't be able to climb any hills more than 1/2mile long with a higher ratio.

Kayce 08-25-11 02:13 PM

Learning to spin faster will help all areas of your cycling. Put on a full set of brakes, so you still have full stopping power, and learn to spin.

UCF Eric 08-25-11 02:22 PM

48x17 is not very low at all, spinning is good for your knees and they will thank you later in life when you can still walk. Work on your technique and smoothing out your pedal stroke.

FastJake 08-25-11 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by UCF Eric (Post 13132210)
48x17 is not very low at all, spinning is good for your knees and they will thank you later in life when you can still walk. Work on your technique and smoothing out your pedal stroke.

+1

If the hills you're going down are indeed big enough to spin out 48/17, there's no way you'll be able to climb them with a higher gear. If your area is that seriously hilly, you might consider switching to single-speed. But try spinning first. Don't put a higher gear on it.

GeoKrpan 08-25-11 03:14 PM

48x17 = 74.2 gi, 48x16 = 75.6 gi, 1.4 gi not a material difference.

UCF Eric 08-25-11 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by GeoKrpan (Post 13132463)
48x17 = 74.2 gi, 48x16 = 75.6 gi, 1.4 gi not a material difference.

It's enough to cause knee pain in some people. I can't ride 48x16 without my knee hurting, 48x17 is fine though. Also 48x16 yields one skid patch.

Sixty Fiver 08-25-11 03:30 PM

Learn how to spin.

ianjk 08-25-11 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 13132529)
Learn how to spin.

x2

GeoKrpan 08-25-11 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by UCF Eric (Post 13132522)
It's enough to cause knee pain in some people. I can't ride 48x16 without my knee hurting, 48x17 is fine though. Also 48x16 yields one skid patch.

Oops, I mean't 46 x 16 = 75.6 gi.

max5480 08-25-11 07:11 PM

um... just buy a cheap 16t avenir cog for $8 and try it out for yourself.

nick hanson 08-25-11 07:31 PM

i know how to spin fast but i just want more speed while being a little more relaxed and not pedaling my ass off.

Eric the Ricer 08-25-11 08:43 PM

I'm currently on 48/15 and it's a ***** going uphill. I haven't been riding long, so I have room to improve, but I'm planning on getting atleast a 16t, probably a 17t.

Scrodzilla 08-25-11 08:49 PM

Man up. 52/14 FTW.

homebrewk 08-26-11 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 13133995)
Man up. 52/14 FTW.

Take it one step further. 53/13. 107 gear inches of pain.

chas58 08-26-11 11:33 AM

The ideal gear is where it hurts as much going down hill as it hurts going uphill.

People tend to go too tall single speed, thinking the harder it is to pedal, the faster they will be going. That may be true for brief sprints, but for most people the taller gear will destroy your average time. 48/17 is plenty tall for solo road riding.

xavier853 08-26-11 11:53 AM

I run 49/16 and run some hills (not daily but often enough.) They are Ohio hills, so not terrible by any means, but I find this ratio to be perfect. About ~85 gi

cbresciani 08-26-11 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by xavier853 (Post 13136721)
I run 49/16 and run some hills (not daily but often enough.) They are Ohio hills, so not terrible by any means, but I find this ratio to be perfect. About ~85 gi

Thunder Thighs! :)

nashcommguy 08-27-11 01:50 PM

My gearing is 48x16t w700x/25mm tires for 79.1 GI. 21.2 mph @ 90 rpm and 28.3 @ 120 rpm. 120 is pretty hard to hold form for any length of time. At least, it is for me. My commute is 41.2 miles rt w/a 500 ft elevation difference. On mapmyride.com the hills on my homeward commute are rated @ 2-4% grade when factored in the overall commute. When tracked one at a time from bottom to top it turns out they are 6-8%. One is 1.25 miles going from 5 to 8% for the last .5 mile. The last six miles have me climbing 425 feet of the elevation difference. :notamused: On the same hills into work I 'pedal out' on some of the down slopes.

I'm sort of in the same quandry. I'd like to drop down to 15 or 14, but my knees feel pretty good w/this gearing. And I am getting much better about not bouncing in the saddle while spinning on the downslopes. Like someone suggested I'll buy a cheap cog and try it out for a couple of weeks. By dropping down 1 tooth size it increases one's GI by more than 5...that's quite a bit. Takes one to 22.6 mph @ 90 and 30.1 @ 120.

52x14? 98 GI w/a top end of 35.0 mph @ 120. FTW, indeed. :eek:


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