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Originally Posted by hamish5178
(Post 13227600)
Mash->Kagero->Bolt
There's a Coke vs. Pepsi thing going on here I think. |
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where can you buy a kagero anyway? is it half the price of the Mash?
It is the same as the original Mash, ie, the one I have. There's a geo chart on google. "more comfortable" is totally relative to the "less comfortable" histogram. I guess $25 for new paintjob isn't too bad. geo charts |
Originally Posted by hamfoh
(Post 13227806)
where can you buy a kagero anyway?
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Originally Posted by hamish5178
(Post 13227600)
Yeah, they really sprung these onto the market. Weird. Further enforcing Scrod's theory that they're just repainted 2009s :lol:
It is the same as the original Mash, ie, the one I have. There's a geo chart on google. "more comfortable" is totally relative to the "less comfortable" histogram. Mash->Kagero->Bolt There's a Coke vs. Pepsi thing going on here I think. But yeah it's pointless to argue about this. The resemblance is acknowledged--patrick said so himself. |
Originally Posted by hamfoh
(Post 13227806)
where can you buy a kagero anyway? is it half the price of the Mash?
weird how the naked eye was able to make that distinction. i thought surely there was something I was overlooking. I read "more comfortable" and was suddenly more intrigued than normal (not a *huge* fan of the TT but love the Mash on other people), but nope. i'd hate to order from a place like mashsf to buy a frame, I'm pretty sure they just mark everything up 20% and then another 20%, but I guess a frame price is a frame price (it's just the principle!). I guess $25 for new paintjob isn't too bad. geo charts |
I feel so out of the loop. wtf is going on?
nevermind, I'll keep my ignorance. |
Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
(Post 13227625)
I know. I was being slightly facetious.
Hamish, I heard Mash reference the "Bolt" graphics when the Histogram graphics came out.
Originally Posted by hamfoh
(Post 13227806)
i'd hate to order from a place like mashsf to buy a frame, I'm pretty sure they just mark everything up 20% and then another 20%, but I guess a frame price is a frame price (it's just the principle!).
It's a shame the color is so similar to the Kagero, but seeing how they came out at close to the same time, I think it's just an unfortunate coincidence. |
nevermind, I'll keep my ignorance. |
Not sure about the '09 theory as cinelli's, especially the MASH during release year, sell/ sold very well.... as I recall all cinelli '09 Alu track models ran out of stock.
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Originally Posted by hairnet
(Post 13228395)
I feel so out of the loop. wtf is going on?
nevermind, I'll keep my ignorance. |
P.s.
<3<3<3 |
hahahaha
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Originally Posted by max5480
(Post 13228404)
I bought my frame at Mash SF (the physical location in SF), and the owner was SUPER nice. He also gave me $100 off the frame just because he's cool. He also doesn't look like he's making bank by any means... but who knows?
It's a shame the color is so similar to the Kagero, but seeing how they came out at close to the same time, I think it's just an unfortunate coincidence. The Kagero would be a now brainer if it was a lot cheaper than the Cinelli's but I guess two companies have to eat off that frame so it makes sense. I love how it's not blasted with brand stickers though |
Truth.
It's a shame it says Cinelli on the downtube... |
oh i thought that said 'please steal me' - gotta get my eyes checked :D
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it means "i wish i were italian" and lived in a black and white world
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lol
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Originally Posted by max5480
(Post 13228752)
it means "i wish i were italian" and lived in a black and white world
Ooops, wrong thread. |
damn I somehow never noticed the massive seatposts diameters on these before
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The guy at my LBS told me the only difference on the geo is the fork haha mash hist is ever so smaller!!! never got to see where he got that info though, ill ask him tomorrow...
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That's definitely not true. The differences are almost visible from the naked eye. But we know two different charts exist anyway, and I've taken a tape measure to both, and they are different.
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Originally Posted by hamfoh
(Post 13228830)
damn I somehow never noticed the massive seatposts diameters on these before
edit: http://images.memegenerator.net/inst...x/10032093.jpg |
I actually took the picture of both geo pics and put them on top of each other. I have no idea how one is noticeably more comfortable than the other, even the measurements seem super super close.
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Originally Posted by hamish5178
(Post 13231769)
I like it a lot. I think 27.2 seatposts look funny on large-tubed bikes.
like, they changed headtubes from 1" to 1 1/8" but left the seatposts the same - it's just completely unbalanced! you gotta change the seatube also or it's a panzi biclicli the exception is the wabi LIghtning! because the tube changes from this to that. all ninja like |
Originally Posted by hamfoh
(Post 13231788)
I actually took the picture of both geo pics and put them on top of each other. I have no idea how one is noticeably more comfortable than the other, even the measurements seem super super close.
I can make any comment on the differences in comfort though. It's likely very minimal I think. |
im pretty sure i orgasm EVERYTIME i see a Cinelli bike
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Originally Posted by craveone
(Post 13232084)
im pretty sure i orgasm EVERYTIME i see a Cinelli bike
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you should just buy some Cinelli stickers, much cheaper
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No thank you
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I think this is appropriate:
Originally Posted by carleton
(Post 13232245)
The MASH crew (and that whole sneaker culture type scene) is very good at marketing, hype, and creating perceived value.
1) Make something that's ever so slightly different than an existing ubiquitous product. 2) Give it to some influential trend setters (AKA: The cool guys) 3) Make it "Limited Edition" to create a sense of urgency and value 4) Charge more money than the existing ubiquitous product to help create more perceived value (AKA: Hipster Tax). 5) Subtly hype the crap out of it via very visible "underground" blogs. 6) ??? 7) Profit!! |
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