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Old 09-25-11, 11:58 PM
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Dear Scrod,
If you and Carleton joined forces, would SSFG turn into the paradise I'm envisioning right now?
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woot. I feel good about my k710SL purchase now. just need to put it on now
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Originally Posted by hairnet
What chains do you use? I just got a free KMC K710. I've seen 710s (or the 710sl) around the forums and I'm curious if you have used them.
I've been using K710SL chains for a while now and really like them. As carleton said, they're very strong, quiet and considerably lighter than the K710 with solid plates.

The thicker plates and mushroomed pins do make using a chain tool a little tricky and if you don't join the chain back together just right (I usually give the pin a little squeeze with pliers as well to sort of "re-mushroom" the edges) - I know, I know...you're not supposed to rejoin these chains by pushing the pin back in with a chain tool and use the quick link instead - but aside from that, I've never had any real trouble with them.

They look cool as hell too.

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Old 09-26-11, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by seau grateau
Dear Scrod,
If you and Carleton joined forces, would SSFG turn into the paradise I'm envisioning right now?
Most likely, until we started fighting about something stupid and that paradise crumbled.
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where can I find a six-pack rack that only clamps on my handlebars?
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I don't know. Wald does make a couple of quick release baskets that attach to the bars and don't have the big fork mounts though:

https://waldsports.com/index.cfm/wald114basket.html

https://waldsports.com/index.cfm/wald3114basket.html
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
I know, I know...you're not supposed to rejoin these chains by pushing the pin back in with a chain tool and use the quick link instead
I haven't read this, I used my little CT-5 just fine so maybe all be well. My only issue was getting the chain all the way into the tool's slot because the plates are so beefy, but I tapped it with a wrench to get it all the way in to line up.
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Originally Posted by hairnet
I haven't read this, I used my little CT-5 just fine so maybe all be well. My only issue was getting the chain all the way into the tool's slot because the plates are so beefy, but I tapped it with a wrench to get it all the way in to line up.
I've never pushed a pin back in. You don't use the Master Link?
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how do you pronounce bontrager?

edit because I just found myself thinking "I wonder if scrod has a bawston accent?" So...?
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Originally Posted by seau grateau
Dear Scrod,
If you and Carleton joined forces, would SSFG turn into the paradise I'm envisioning right now?
Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
Most likely, until we started fighting about something stupid and that paradise crumbled.
It would probably go down something like this:



...with me being the kid on the left.
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Originally Posted by carleton
I've never pushed a pin back in. You don't use the Master Link?
For whatever reason, I find it easier to use a chain tool than a master link. I can't be the only one, right?
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Old 09-26-11, 07:03 PM
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Scrod,
You run the Durano's on your Leader, yeah?

How do they hold up?
Seem like the perfect combo of toughness without weighing 5lbs

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Old 09-26-11, 07:09 PM
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carleton - nice Lion King PJs.

Originally Posted by mashtofu
For whatever reason, I find it easier to use a chain tool than a master link. I can't be the only one, right?
Me too. I hate master links.

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how do you pronounce bontrager?

edit because I just found myself thinking "I wonder if scrod has a bawston accent?" So...?
I pronounce it "garbage" - and accentuate the "r" because I don't have a dumb Boston accent.

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Scrod,
You run the Durano's on your Leader, yeah?

How do they hold up?
Seem like the perfect combo or toughness without weighing 5lbs
Mine have been awesome so far and I've never had a flat. I don't make a habit of skidding but the few that I have busted out haven't had any real effect on them.

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Originally Posted by carleton
I've never pushed a pin back in. You don't use the Master Link?
I was going to; then I didn't.

The master link is shaped like a standard chain link, so I took it be optional rather than recommended or required. Well, we will see if my chain explodes.

fwiw, the only time I have broken a chain was on my road bike and it was the quick link that failed.

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Originally Posted by hairnet
I was going to; then I didn't.

The master link is shaped like a standard chain link, so I took it be optional rather than recommended or required. Well, we will see if my chain explodes.

fwiw, the only time I have broken a chain was on my road bike and it was the quick link that failed.
I have pushed a link back in instead of using the master link before and it has worked out fine.
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Old 09-26-11, 08:42 PM
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Standard chain pins are totally fine to push back in. It's the mushroomed ones you're not really supposed to mess with because you could deform both the plate and the pin. Like I said before though, I've never had any trouble.

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Dear Mr Scrod,

What should I do to remove a pedal that is stuck to a crank arm because the LBS tightened the **** out of this thing? I only have a 15mm wrench...is it possible to do it at home with my tools or should I just go to the LBS and complain?
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Originally Posted by 8bits
Dear Mr Scrod,

What should I do to remove a pedal that is stuck to a crank arm because the LBS tightened the **** out of this thing? I only have a 15mm wrench...is it possible to do it at home with my tools or should I just go to the LBS and complain?
Pedal wrench. Did they not grease the pedal? If you have space, just get more leverage on the wrench, sliding a jack handle over a wrench can work wonders. Also make sure you're turning the right way!
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Old 09-26-11, 09:17 PM
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Jaytron's got it. Often times a regular wrench is too thick to fit in there and even if it does, won't provide enough leverage. Go back to the shop.
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Try with your foot on the pedal at the 3 o'clock position and pulling on the wrench [you face front wheel and pull towards rear wheel] . If not, go back to shop
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Idk if this has already been asked.

Do you skid much? I recently stopped skidding and was thinking about people who ride brakeless - do pretty much all brakeless bikers skid then?

And as a side note, the latest look of your silver leader is frickin sweet. Do you know how much weight you knocked off since the days of bullhorns, arrospok, and thickslicks? Can you feel much of a difference when you're riding?
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Old 09-26-11, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by EpicSchwinn
do pretty much all brakeless bikers skid then?
I don't
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Originally Posted by hamfoh
I don't
Neither do I. I thought I'd be skidding all over the place when I switched to brakeless, but it turns out I'm too lazy to skid and would rather just be more aware of where I'm going.
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Old 09-26-11, 11:08 PM
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Quoted from another thread:

Originally Posted by Jaytron
I assure you I'm not trolling, but how do you stop quickly if brakeless without skidding or hopping? Do you just plan your stops out early?
Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
Yes. Being aware of your surroundings and not riding like a dickhead is crucial. There's no reason for me to be hauling ass through downtown where I would be screwed if I needed to make an emergency stop (with or without brakes) and there are plenty of low-traffic roads around here to go fast on. Also, my legs are strong and I can slow myself pretty easily, especially if I throw a couple of skips into the mix.

A lot of brakeless riders use skidding to "stop" as an excuse to skid. It's not necessary.
About the weight - my old setup with the Aerospoke and H+son/Phil wheels weighed 20.35 lbs and now my bike weighs 17.66 lbs. It's definitely noticeable.
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
Standard chain pins are totally fine to push back in. It's the mushroomed ones you're not really supposed to mess with because you could deform both the plate and the pin. Like I said before though, I've never had any trouble.
the mushroom type can be really hard on your chain breaker... i bent the pin on the first chain breaker i had this way. never had any problems with the chains though once they've been put back together
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