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solbrothers 10-15-11 10:35 PM

htfu

solbrothers 10-15-11 10:40 PM

i climb all day with 90 GI

adriano 10-15-11 11:47 PM

mustache is far from being better than bullhorn.

solbrothers 10-16-11 12:01 AM

bullhorns or drops with hoods (essentially the same riding position) would be best.

redpear 10-16-11 01:28 AM

drops with hoods offer a similar riding position as bullhorns, but not the same leverage.

adriano 10-16-11 08:30 AM

it shouldnt be that big of a difference unless your hoods are pointed up a lot.

solbrothers 10-16-11 08:45 AM

exactly.

adem 10-16-11 09:09 AM

it depends on you and your bike.

GeoKrpan 10-16-11 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by adriano (Post 13370628)
mustache is far from being better than bullhorn.

The moustache bar that I use is 12cm wider than my bullhorns. More leverage, more climbing power.

91MF 10-16-11 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by dsh (Post 13370457)

A fixed gear rider will be doing less work and fatiguing fewer muscles than a geared rider using the same ratio.

^this. i pride myself on being a good climber and i'll say this: practicing on your fixay does not a good climber make.

adriano 10-16-11 11:27 AM

its harder to get your weight off the rear axle though i can see how the added width is nice.

GeoKrpan 10-16-11 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by adriano (Post 13371899)
its harder to get your weight off the rear axle though i can see how the added width is nice.

The reach of the moustache bar is nearly that of a bullhorn and longer than to the hoods of a drop bar.

redpear 10-16-11 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by adriano (Post 13371338)
it shouldnt be that big of a difference unless your hoods are pointed up a lot.

In my experience, the difference is that you can grab the whole horn on a bullhorn handlebar. Hoods at the farthest reaching point give you a place to put your hands, not a place to grip for a climbing.

solbrothers 10-16-11 01:33 PM

your hands are too small then. i can grip my hoods just as well as bullhorns

adriano 10-16-11 01:40 PM

different strokes. i think im imagining different mustaches.

redpear 10-16-11 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by solbrothers (Post 13372310)
your hands are too small then. i can grip my hoods just as well as bullhorns

I'm a small person, so that's possible. If it works for you I'll consider trying it when I go to compact drops. Which levers do you have, as a recommendation?

solbrothers 10-16-11 02:12 PM

well i had 6600 brifters with nitto noodle bars on my road bike (they are now attached to origin 8 gary bars on my cross bike) but they seemed like they are more bulky than my 90s 105 brake hoods.

solbrothers 10-16-11 02:13 PM

hit up your lbs and try out some different brake levers.

bullhorns are cool but drops give you more hand positions!

GeoKrpan 10-16-11 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by solbrothers (Post 13372310)
your hands are too small then. i can grip my hoods just as well as bullhorns

I can't grip hoods nearly as well and my hands are big.

mihlbach 10-16-11 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by dsh (Post 13370457)
Its worth remembering that, if your gear is reasonable for the climb, climbing on a fixed gear is considerably easier than climbing on a freewheel bike.

Geared bikes obviously have more bail-out gears, but your fixed drivetrain pulls your feet through any dead spots in your pedal stroke.

A fixed gear rider will be doing less work and fatiguing fewer muscles than a geared rider using the same ratio.

Fixed gears are cool, but not cool enough to defy basic physical laws. Perhaps you are confusing fixies with unicorns.

solbrothers 10-16-11 06:34 PM

he is somewhat right. i mean given the same or similar gear ratios, the sw8 fixay will climb easier because theres no way to stop your legs, you HAVE to bring that other foot up (assuming you have some sort of foot retention).

but for a real climb (not entering the parking lot to starbucks) the road bike will have the advantage of selecting gears

redpear 10-16-11 06:34 PM

If your drivetrain is pulling your feet, two things are happening:

a. you are actually slowing down the bike in the dead spot.

b. you need to smoothen your pedal stroke and htfu

91MF 10-16-11 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by mihlbach (Post 13373208)
Fixed gears are cool, but not cool enough to defy basic physical laws. Perhaps you are confusing fixies with unicorns.

he never suggested basic physics would be defied, his statement suggested the fixay biek rider could use physics to his advantage, which is true. the physics acting on the rear wheel already in motion would aid the rider in 'the dead spot'/the weakest section of his crank rotation.

91MF 10-16-11 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by redpear (Post 13373224)
you are actually slowing down the bike in the dead spot.

no, the rear wheel is generating a lot more force than your bodyweight is in the pedal --otherwise skidding would be super easy and we wouldnt have 30 threads a week on 'best ratio so i can skid'

you know you can 'feel' the worst spot in your crank rotation, just 'float' through it.

no offence but i'd wager the people who argue this phenomenon are running a 'bigger' ratio on the street than they should.

solbrothers 10-16-11 06:47 PM

than they should? im running 90 GI on my sw8 fixay and i go up hills just fine.


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