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Scrodzilla 08-20-15 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by franswa (Post 17965404)

Holy Jesus, this is the nicest Rush I've ever seen.

franswa 08-20-15 11:38 AM

Thanks. I need to update photos to reflect new chainring, brake levers, pedals and saddle.

mrmb 08-20-15 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 18093499)
You should be OK with chainring clearance. However, the issue some people have with Campy Pista cranks is the low Q-factor often makes the crank arms hit the chainstays on certain frames.

You're probably the first person in history to ever put Campy cranks on a Pake, so you'll most likely just need to try it and see if it works.

To get back to you and anyone else reading this....

It fit just fine. No problems with chainring nor the cranks in terms of frame clearance.

This is the build

pake rum runner frame
Phil wood 110.5mm bottom bracket
Campy record pista crankset and chainring - 165mm cranks/49 tooth chainring
Phil wood cog and lockring- 18 tooth
Phil wood hubs
Mavic open pro rims
Thomson seat post
Thomson stem
Chris King headset
WTB seat
Cinelli handlebars
No brakes

I am happy with it, but at the same time I am mildly dissappointed as I expected more out of these big name/big $ parts.

Scrodzilla 08-20-15 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by mrmb (Post 18094331)
I am happy with it, but at the same time I am mildly dissappointed as I expected more out of these big name/big $ parts.

Were you expecting them to do your dishes, fold your laundry and tuck you into bed at night?

Leukybear 08-20-15 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by franswa (Post 18093577)
Thanks. I need to update photos to reflect new chainring, brake levers, pedals and saddle.

What seatpost do you have on there?

franswa 08-20-15 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by Leukybear (Post 18094687)
What seatpost do you have on there?


VO grand cru

mrmb 08-20-15 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 18094653)
Were you expecting them to do your dishes, fold your laundry and tuck you into bed at night?

No, but it would be nice if the crank+chainring ran a bit more true. Chain tension is a rather inconsistent and for the $$ I paid, I hoped for better. I always heard that "chain tension will always be inconsistent until you get into the high dollar cranksets".

Scrodzilla 08-20-15 08:07 PM

All you probably need to do is center your chainring. Google it.

nightfly 08-21-15 05:30 AM

Interesting choices.

Seems like the frame is the least expensive major part of your bike by a good margin. Your seatpost and stem together are probably more expensive.

Would venture that might be the thing that's preventing you from getting the feel you want as you can basically rule out anything else at this point.

Starting with a straight gauge steel frame rather than something of higher quality steel is going to limit how good the thing is going to feel ultimately.

Also you don't mention tire diameter or type but that's probably the biggest factor of how a bike feels.

Things like high end cranks, bottom bracket, headset, seat post, stem etc aren't really going to feel much different (I also have a Record Pista Crankset, it's beautiful but can't say I can tell the difference from a feel standpoint)

Frame materials, wheel weight and type and tires are going to effect the subjective ride much more.

If you had Deep Vs or similar heavy, stiff rims I'd blame those but seems like you've got that covered.

I've got a Rush frame I picked up used for less than the cost of a Rum Runner and the road feel of my bike is great and I lack about $500 of the Phil/Chris King stuff you have...

I would say a Rush would be the next logical step up, particularly if all your high end components would fit. Keep an eye out for a used one. They've been making them for quite a few years so they pop up sometimes...


Originally Posted by mrmb (Post 18094331)
To get back to you and anyone else reading this....

It fit just fine. No problems with chainring nor the cranks in terms of frame clearance.

This is the build

pake rum runner frame
Phil wood 110.5mm bottom bracket
Campy record pista crankset and chainring - 165mm cranks/49 tooth chainring
Phil wood cog and lockring- 18 tooth
Phil wood hubs
Mavic open pro rims
Thomson seat post
Thomson stem
Chris King headset
WTB seat
Cinelli handlebars
No brakes

I am happy with it, but at the same time I am mildly dissappointed as I expected more out of these big name/big $ parts.


mrmb 08-21-15 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by nightfly (Post 18096021)
Interesting choices.

Seems like the frame is the least expensive major part of your bike by a good margin. Your seatpost and stem together are probably more expensive.

Would venture that might be the thing that's preventing you from getting the feel you want as you can basically rule out anything else at this point.

Starting with a straight gauge steel frame rather than something of higher quality steel is going to limit how good the thing is going to feel ultimately.

Also you don't mention tire diameter or type but that's probably the biggest factor of how a bike feels.

Things like high end cranks, bottom bracket, headset, seat post, stem etc aren't really going to feel much different (I also have a Record Pista Crankset, it's beautiful but can't say I can tell the difference from a feel standpoint)

Frame materials, wheel weight and type and tires are going to effect the subjective ride much more.

If you had Deep Vs or similar heavy, stiff rims I'd blame those but seems like you've got that covered.

I've got a Rush frame I picked up used for less than the cost of a Rum Runner and the road feel of my bike is great and I lack about $500 of the Phil/Chris King stuff you have...

Tires = 700x25 Continental grand sport race.

My biggest beef honestly is the chain tension inconsistencies.

It's not terrible, but I wish it were more smooth. My Sugino messanger is awesome in THIS regard compared to this campy set. I am not looking to make a change based only on this, but it still bothers me a little. I am also a little OCD about this type of thing.

Scrodzilla 08-21-15 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by mrmb (Post 18097773)
My biggest beef honestly is the chain tension inconsistencies.

It's not terrible, but I wish it were more smooth. My Sugino messanger is awesome in THIS regard compared to this campy set. I am not looking to make a change based only on this, but it still bothers me a little. I am also a little OCD about this type of thing.

Like I said yesterday, your chainring probably just needs to be centered. Not a big deal.

Pumpee 10-11-15 11:01 PM

Hi guys, quick question.
I want a frame that has some space between the top tube and the down tube. The one that doesnt attach at the head tube.
Can someone show me a comparison between a 51cm and a 53cm pake track frame? thanks.
btw my hight is 174cm(about 5'8) and inseam of 80cm(about 32inches). Do you think ill be stretched out in the 53cm frame??

TejanoTrackie 10-14-15 07:05 PM

3 Attachment(s)
Bump. Removed the second water bottle cage from the seat tube of my khaki Soma Rush and moved the downtube cage down lower so a tall water bottle will fit.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=482567http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=482568http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=482569

Pumpee 10-16-15 07:31 AM

Nice. Matching brakes!
What size is your rush??

TejanoTrackie 10-16-15 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by Pumpee (Post 18246222)
Nice. Matching brakes!
What size is your rush??

Thanks. It's a 49cm, which is the smallest size.

Scrodzilla 10-16-15 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by Pumpee (Post 18235176)
Hi guys, quick question.
I want a frame that has some space between the top tube and the down tube. The one that doesnt attach at the head tube.
Can someone show me a comparison between a 51cm and a 53cm pake track frame? thanks.
btw my hight is 174cm(about 5'8) and inseam of 80cm(about 32inches). Do you think ill be stretched out in the 53cm frame??

I can't believe this is a thing.

Pumpee 10-18-15 11:44 PM

Its just my preference. Sorry if I offended you man.

I am new here, I found what i was looking for in the previous posts. But was just wondering if any of you guys had an upgrade on your pake track preferably someone with a 53cm frame

johnelliss 10-18-15 11:48 PM

That is awesome bike and looking great in blue color. I want this type of cycle if any one have than please tell me i really want this.

Pumpee 10-20-15 04:54 PM

Does rush and pake have a different tube diameter??

louieg 11-11-15 03:56 PM

Here is my build so far ! 55 cm Soma Rush chrome, Velo Orange Grand Cru PBP wheelset, Track supermarket Nitto pearl track stem, Track supermarket Nitto Jaguar track seatpost, Compass Bicycles Iribe bottle cage, Dia-Compe BRS 101 brake calipers chrome, Velo Orange Grand Cru 1" sealed bearing headset mirror finish chrome, Sugino 75 crankset and 48 tooth chainring, Sugino 75 crank bolt caps, Sugino Gigas 16 tooth cog and lockring, Sugino 75 Ceramic bottom bracket , White Industries 17 tooth freewheel, Tech 77 duplex brake lever, Nitto B125AA shallow drop aluminum handlebar, Dia-Compe top tube cable guides, Continental Super sport plus tires. Izumi V gold chain. Still Have to finish putting it together.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?...TQ&usp=sharing

TejanoTrackie 11-11-15 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by louieg (Post 18311936)
Here is my build so far ! 55 cm Soma Rush chrome, Velo Orange Grand Cru PBP wheelset, Track supermarket Nitto pearl track stem, Track supermarket Nitto Jaguar track seatpost, Compass Bicycles Iribe bottle cage, Dia-Compe BRS 101 brake calipers chrome, Velo Orange Grand Cru 1" sealed bearing headset mirror finish chrome, Sugino 75 crankset and 48 tooth chainring, Sugino 75 crank bolt caps, Sugino Gigas 16 tooth cog and lockring, Sugino 75 Ceramic bottom bracket , White Industries 17 tooth freewheel, Tech 77 duplex brake lever, Nitto B125AA shallow drop aluminum handlebar, Dia-Compe top tube cable guides, Continental Super sport plus tires. Izumi V gold chain. Still Have to finish putting it together.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?...TQ&usp=sharing

OMG, just when we thought it couldn't get any better, it got better ! :thumb:

louieg 11-11-15 05:16 PM

Thanks TejanoTrackie, I am still in the process of putting it together when I'm not working as I already bought all the parts🔧.

3speedslow 11-13-15 04:38 PM

Can you say, upgraded at the get-go !

Nice job so far. I will be out on mine tonight with the Fixed Gear crowd for the usual Friday romp.

ufbeans 11-16-15 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by louieg (Post 18311936)
Here is my build so far ! 55 cm Soma Rush chrome, Velo Orange Grand Cru PBP wheelset, Track supermarket Nitto pearl track stem, Track supermarket Nitto Jaguar track seatpost, Compass Bicycles Iribe bottle cage, Dia-Compe BRS 101 brake calipers chrome, Velo Orange Grand Cru 1" sealed bearing headset mirror finish chrome, Sugino 75 crankset and 48 tooth chainring, Sugino 75 crank bolt caps, Sugino Gigas 16 tooth cog and lockring, Sugino 75 Ceramic bottom bracket , White Industries 17 tooth freewheel, Tech 77 duplex brake lever, Nitto B125AA shallow drop aluminum handlebar, Dia-Compe top tube cable guides, Continental Super sport plus tires. Izumi V gold chain. Still Have to finish putting it together.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?...TQ&usp=sharing


Beautiful color coordination. Well I mean chrome on chrome on chrome. Great choice of bars too. What saddle are you putting on? Have you weighed it?

louieg 11-16-15 11:18 PM

Thanks ufbeans, I have a Selle Italia flite saddle in black leather I have yet to put on. I have not weighed it assembled since I have yet to finish. It will be about 17 1/2 to 18 when it's done as I already weighed all the components individually, including the frame and fork and totaled them up.


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